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How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by pertbert »

swaranga wrote: post #158
akdor1154 wrote: post #46

Jesus.. here i am in my BigCorp being disallowed to dev with Linux because too much mandated corporate crapware doesn't work. I dream of the day my employer provides an in-house distro for me.

I am loving the Netflix model. You can ask for a MacBook or a thinkpad. If you opt for the thinkpad, you can also install whatever Linux you want and all tools will still work. In fact you can bring your own laptop and without reimaging use that for development. All interval tools (of which there aren’t too many are written in Go so are cross platform). I ordered a framework laptop and will expense it once it is here…

That's flexible! Does this flexibility derive from have a simpler threat model at Netflix? How damaging would insider risk be?

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by swaranga »

pertbert wrote: post #161
swaranga wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am loving the Netflix model. You can ask for a MacBook or a thinkpad. If you opt for the thinkpad, you can also install whatever Linux you want and all tools will still work. In fact you can bring your own laptop and without reimaging use that for development. All interval tools (of which there aren’t too many are written in Go so are cross platform). I ordered a framework laptop and will expense it once it is here…

That's flexible! Does this flexibility derive from have a simpler threat model at Netflix? How damaging would insider risk be?

Not a security engineer so can’t comment on the threat model. But an insider threat like a rogue employee can do as much damage with a managed laptop vs an unmanaged one IMO.

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Schroedingersat wrote: post #153
paskozdilar wrote: post #106

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Note that AGPL (Affero GPL) expands the attached strings to any kind of user-facing network interface. So if you take AGPL code and make a Service-as-a-Software-Substitute with it, you're still legally obliged to provide source code to the users of your SaaSS. In fact, AGPL is so badass that not even Google [0] wants to touch it with a 10 yard stick :) [0] https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl.…

> So if you take AGPL code and make a Service-as-a-Software-Substitute with it, you're still legally obliged to provide source code to the users of your SaaSS. So the users of the software can do whatever they want with it with no strings attached then. I don't see how this concept is so hard.

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Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by jay_kyburz »

Schroedingersat wrote: post #153
paskozdilar wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that AGPL (Affero GPL) expands the attached strings to any kind of user-facing network interface. So if you take AGPL code and make a Service-as-a-Software-Substitute with it, you're still legally obliged to provide source code to the users of your SaaSS. In fact, AGPL is so badass that not even Google [0] wants to touch it with a 10 yard stick :) [0] https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl.…

> So if you take AGPL code and make a Service-as-a-Software-Substitute with it, you're still legally obliged to provide source code to the users of your SaaSS. So the users of the software can do whatever they want with it with no strings attached then. I don't see how this concept is so hard.

I think the concept is hard because its not clear what "users" you are talking about. The people using the software to host the SaS have strings, the users of the SaS do not. There are two groups who could be considered users.

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

merb wrote: post #149
Barrin92 wrote: post #5

personally I'm a pretty big fan of opensuse tumbleweed for a rolling distribution because they ship fully tested snapshots each day rather than individual packages. If I understand the article correctly Google's Sieve is similar to the Opensuse Build Service in that regard. It seems like they went for Debian because of the proximity to Ubuntu but I wonder if they ever considered Suse, the ecosystem is pretty good.

well if opensuse tumbleweed would use apt I would use it instantly, however zypper is so niche...

Why is niche an issue? Most of the packages on apt are available on suse. Then you have the Opensuse Build Service(OBS) for therest.

Re: How Google got to rolling Linux releases for Desktops

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Post by dinvlad »

_piif wrote: post #25
dinvlad wrote: post #20

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I wanted to give it a try, but SecureBoot is refusing to be set up correctly, despite following the manual '( (I suspect the problem is with NVidia drivers..)

Works fine here on my laptop with an nvidia gpu. I followed the instructions here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_Extensible_Firmware... Though I had to stick to a slightly older version of grub to get it to load up properly with the given guide.

Tbh, I've been trying these same instructions for Pop_OS! and that's why it didn't work. Maybe Arch itself is much better in that regard.
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