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Because those particular experts were on Russian payroll.
Source please.
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1. 'The West' wasn't hubristic, Europe was. The US has been telling Europe to get off of Russian gas & oil for decades, under multiple administrations. Both parties have been extremely clear about this for over two decades now. 'I'm astounded at how many people continue to live in the 3rd fantasy of believing Ukraine could somehow "defeat" Russia while still avoiding WW3' 2. The US lost in Vietnam without using nukes…
America lost to Vietnam America lost to Taliban USSR lost to Afghanistan All of these were insurgencies. Why can’t Russia lose to an insurgent Ukrainian population? Is Russia willing to fight for 10 years?
Yes, I would think Russia would be willing to fight for 10 years, because this is literally their backyard, not some far-off exotic country. Many Russians consider Ukraine to be practically their own territory, even more so than places like Chechnya.
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And how is Europe commiting collective suicide going to defeat Russia? Must be fun looking in at all this from the sidelines.
I'm an european, and I never understood this... We sent our soldiers to every shithole america decided to "bring democracy to", but now, ukraine has become so important, that we are willing to destroy our own economy and "passively fight" until the "last dead ukranian", to achieve what exactly?
His aspirations are much larger than Ukraine.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
Source please.
https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated-...
That article is about the Stasi infiltrating the German Green Party.
> Indeed, far from being an indictment of Stasi infiltration of the Greens, Gieseke and Bahr's study is a portrait of a largely failed attempt by the Communist German Democratic Republic (GDR) to co-opt the nascent left-wing party on the other side of the Iron Curtain.
How did a few Stasi cooperators the 1980s Green Party translate into experts recommending Germany's nuclear power plants be shut down in the late 2010s?
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#265The comments here are IMO definitive proof that Democracy is doomed because its citizens DGAF: too many are all too willing to lick the boots of the nearest authoritarian so long as they aren’t too terribly inconvenienced. Y’all gonna get what you deserve… I just wish your foolishness wasn’t going to drag me down with you.
Nah, just a few vocal dudes. Ukraine continues to fight.
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated-...
That article is about the Stasi infiltrating the German Green Party. > Indeed, far from being an indictment of Stasi infiltration of the Greens, Gieseke and Bahr's study is a portrait of a largely failed attempt by the Communist German Democratic Republic (GDR) to co-opt the nascent left-wing party on the other side of the Iron Curtain. How did a few Stasi cooperators the 1980s Green Party translate into experts reco…
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/19/russia-s...
https://legacy-assets.eenews.net/open_files/assets/2017/07/0...
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-funding-environmental-g...
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-funding-green-groups-discredi...
https://www.transparency.org/en/press/germany-state-governme...
https://www.eenews.net/articles/devin-nunes-claims-russia-is...
in comparison how Russia deals with this internally https://www.nirs.org/russia-cracks-down-on-anti-nuclear-move...
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
That article is about the Stasi infiltrating the German Green Party. > Indeed, far from being an indictment of Stasi infiltration of the Greens, Gieseke and Bahr's study is a portrait of a largely failed attempt by the Communist German Democratic Republic (GDR) to co-opt the nascent left-wing party on the other side of the Iron Curtain. How did a few Stasi cooperators the 1980s Green Party translate into experts reco…
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/19/russia-s... https://legacy-assets.eenews.net/open_files/assets/2017/07/0... https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-funding-environmental-g... https://www.newsweek.com/putin-funding-green-groups-discredi... https://www.transparency.org/en/press/germany-state-governme... https://www.eenews.net/articles/devin-nunes-claims-russia-is... in comparison how Russia deals with…
Are you seriously using an article quoting Devin Nunes as an authorative source?
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You can't be friends with a country which commits joining a military alliance which puts your ports and navy under the control of your enemies. You seriously expect Russia to have its military and merchant ports in Crimea under NATO control as a sign of "friendship"? What kind of crack do you have in your pipe? If you want to be fair then you might as well have Crimea revert to Turkey as it was part of Ottoman Empire…
> You can't be friends with a country which commits joining a military alliance which puts your ports and navy under the control of your enemies. It's a defensive alliance, one that is designed to stop Russia doing exactly what its doing now. Russia does not get to decide what alliances its neighbours join. Russia does not get to invade, rape and slaughter innocent civilians just because it wants to. Ukraine and Russ…
> It's a defensive alliance, one that is designed to stop Russia doing exactly what its doing now.
NATO hasn't been a defensive alliance since the fall of the Soviet Union. Its role in the two Iraq wars, Libya and in the wars in the Balkans wars are proof that is not a defensive alliance. It has become a tool for US military hegemony.
> Russia does not get to invade, rape and slaughter innocent civilians just because it wants to.
Bogus bullshit. The idea that the Russian military see the rape and slaughter of innocent civilians as the way to get the cooperation and support of a population's which it sees as part of its Federation is nonsensical.
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Yeah right. Read this NYT article about Ihor Kolomoisky, the guy allegedly behind Zelenskyy's rise to power and do some serious thinking. https://web.archive.org/web/20191123115230/https://www.nytim...
I’m not sure what this has to do with Russias invasion of Ukraine and repeated countless war crimes they seem unable to stop committing but okay.
Perhaps you should read the article again and again and again.
Zelenskyy was Holomoisky's protege and if he was calling for better relations with Russia years ago then perhaps Zelenskyy's regime should have listened, rather than follow the path which has precipitated this invasion by Russia.
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I’m not sure what this has to do with Russias invasion of Ukraine and repeated countless war crimes they seem unable to stop committing but okay.
Perhaps you should read the article again and again and again. Zelenskyy was Holomoisky's protege and if he was calling for better relations with Russia years ago then perhaps Zelenskyy's regime should have listened, rather than follow the path which has precipitated this invasion by Russia.
I dont know why you think this war would have been avoided with 'better relations' with Russia, the only way that this would be avoided would have been if Ukraine became a vassal stake of Russia like Belarus is right now.