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Let's be clear - those who support Putin today are fascist sympathizers and no amount of demagoguery is going to change that. What I'm surprised about are such pro-fascist comments here on HN. But good thing is that today it's becoming more and more clear to most, including in Europe. There will be no more sitting on two chairs for those who support Putin's fascism.
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You can't be friends with a country which commits joining a military alliance which puts your ports and navy under the control of your enemies. You seriously expect Russia to have its military and merchant ports in Crimea under NATO control as a sign of "friendship"? What kind of crack do you have in your pipe? If you want to be fair then you might as well have Crimea revert to Turkey as it was part of Ottoman Empire…
> You can't be friends with a country which commits joining a military alliance which puts your ports and navy under the control of your enemies. It's a defensive alliance, one that is designed to stop Russia doing exactly what its doing now. Russia does not get to decide what alliances its neighbours join. Russia does not get to invade, rape and slaughter innocent civilians just because it wants to. Ukraine and Russ…
https://web.archive.org/web/20191123115230/https://www.nytim...
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> 2. we believed our leaders would have the sense to settle with Russia instead of destroying our country. What settlement could Ukraine have with Russia that wouldn't be the end of Ukraine? Russia is demanding that Ukraine allow part of its territory to secede and form "independent" nations, as well as have Ukraine avoid bolstering its ability to protect itself from its neighbours. Do you think those countries won't…
> What settlement could Ukraine have with Russia that wouldn't be the end of Ukraine? Any settlement would've been better than this. Every major city destroyed, 15% of the population emigrated.
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It's the rolling tanks into other people's countries thing.
so lets summize: organ harvesting: ok. concentration camps for ethnic minority: ok. rolling tanks: NO!
It's all very hard to be consistent about. For one thing, one can't fanatically support any "side" since there are bad deeds being done in many corners of the world.
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A government is a law unto themselves. They have power to do what they need in times of war. Germany shouldn't be pulling a Chamberlain moment while Russia is hot to commit genocide in Europe and roll over whoever they want.
The first person who said words like yours was probably a chieftain long ago who went to his smiths and said "I need my new sword NOW, hurry up with that hardening!"
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Crimea belongs to Ukraine since 1990, this was recognised also by Russia. The Russian invasion was not inevitable, Russia could have chosen a path of friendship. I am stating facts, you are spreading misinformation.
You can't be friends with a country which commits joining a military alliance which puts your ports and navy under the control of your enemies. You seriously expect Russia to have its military and merchant ports in Crimea under NATO control as a sign of "friendship"? What kind of crack do you have in your pipe? If you want to be fair then you might as well have Crimea revert to Turkey as it was part of Ottoman Empire…
You think this is deep, but this is r/iam14andthisisdeep
You think you are free-thinking, but are spouting another kind of group-think and Russian propaganda.
The truth isn't always in the middle between NYT and RT. It's not that simple.
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> You can't be friends with a country which commits joining a military alliance which puts your ports and navy under the control of your enemies. It's a defensive alliance, one that is designed to stop Russia doing exactly what its doing now. Russia does not get to decide what alliances its neighbours join. Russia does not get to invade, rape and slaughter innocent civilians just because it wants to. Ukraine and Russ…
Yeah right. Read this NYT article about Ihor Kolomoisky, the guy allegedly behind Zelenskyy's rise to power and do some serious thinking. https://web.archive.org/web/20191123115230/https://www.nytim...
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I remember you, the day before the war started, you bet me $25 that there would be no war ( https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=martythemaniak&next=... ). I'm glad you're alive and there's obviously no need to settle that bet, but despite everything you've been through, your understanding of the situation has not improved. First, the Americans warned everybody that Russia would attack on Feb 16 and they were wide…
I sent you an email to settle the bet a few months ago, it probably went to your spam. My email is in my profile. I was wrong about the war, but I think my understanding of the situation has improved. My mistake was naivety. The naivety is gone now, and I think there is real chance of this war going global if the West keeps fuelling the conflict.