TikTok is an AMAZING platform for original content on just about everything.
So is YouTube... Where probably ~80-90% of TikTok content is repurposed from.
As TikTok grows, so does suspicion
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Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion
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What data are we exactly giving Tiktok? I would agree with it being called a propaganda platform, but I’m not sure about it being a surveillance platform.
You can't sign up with just an email, you need third party integration like Twitter, and surprise, you need to give TikTok full access to your account. Still pretty entertaining though.
This is incorrect. You can sign up with email.
Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion
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You would be surprised if you polled non-US, non-China citizens about what country is the biggest geopolitical threat to the world. Wait, I don't even need to talk in conditionals. I Googled it and apparently it has indeed been done several times, and the results are what I expected. https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/05/us-threat-demo...
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> all average people's opinions outside of western democracies are meaningless because those people don't have access to education or information to form any real opinions.
Please do better. This is incredibly naive and insulting.
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The USA have ~800 military bases over 85 different countries. Russia has 21, all in neighbouring countries. China has only 1 foreign base in Djibouti. Who's acting outside of their borders again?
I don't care about the US in this instance, but how many of those bases are wanted by the countries they are in? In most cases it seems US citizens are subsidizing the defense of many other countries.
Define wanted? In Australia's case they're 'wanted' by the government insofar as the PM that tried to get rid of them was unlawfully ejected from parliament. Tye populace are at best indifferent, and this is after decades of pro US propaganda.
Most of these 'wanted' bases are wanted in the same way the subjects of any other protection racket want their opressor.
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I am from latin america and at least neither China nor Russia have participated in coup d'etat to install a military junta to then torture and massacre anyone slightly left of the US "Democratic" Party. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2khAmMTAjI
Russia has put down multiple popular uprisings within its sphere - Belarus, Kazakhstan. Invaded Georgia, and Ukraine to effect regime change. And looks to be behind the Coup in Mali and one in Montenegro. China has supported violent Juntas in Myanmar, and Sudan. It has essentially performed a coup in Hong Kong. And of course it loves supplying weapons to latin countries via Norinco. And it's doing economic damage and…
and all of that combined is like a regular wedensday for US.
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I wouldn't worry too much about TikTok's impact on the youth as a population (rather than specific individuals with evidence of actual struggles). Similar fears were expressed about music corrupting the youth. And TV rotting their brains. And video games turning them into mass murderers. And yet, even with all the actual addictive poisons generations of youth have imbibed, those youth turned into us and here we are p…
I see the view you express here pretty frequently--that older generations have /always/ viewed any new cultural development as a sign of moral/intellectual degradation, and--surprise!--it never really is. I do tend to agree that most fears about the new crop of addictive social media engagement engines is just handwringing, just like it was for TV, or music, or radio, or books. That being said, just because coffee an…
> a sign of moral/intellectual degradation, and--surprise!--it never really is.
I'm not sure how you'd measure that... Right now there seems to be a heart disease and obesity epidemic, which I understand is primarily due to sugar and processed foods, but I find it hard to believe the massive amounts of TV watching and computer use plays no role in that, if not a significant one.
With TV, there was also the passivity effect, people were just fed a diet of propaganda with little way to do much about it, whereas now at least there's some choice although I'm not sure we're much better off and what the tradeoffs are. Prior to TV and radio, people weren't very educated at all, so it's kind of hard to compare. We don't get the science experiments we need out of natural development.
Then, I can't know but I wonder if a society where more reading and radio wouldn't be better in some important ways.
Then, yeah what if TV is like coffee but a certain kind of Internet use does turn out to be like a more addictive drug...
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It is because China is the enemy. When it's Facebook or Google strangely it's never an issue. Moral is always a facade for international economic war. And some people fall for it.
While most people on HN would agree that they would like more regulation of their data on FB and Google, these are largely still separate actors from the US government. You can even indicate that something like Cambridge Analytica is starting within a party, rather than the actual governing body. There is too much sharing, IMO, without a doubt. That being said, they are not near synonymous as TikTok is. Data regulati…
Just because the chinese oligarchs give themselves government titles and the US oligarchs do not is no reason to believe they're not the ones in control.
Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion
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Didn't the states just pull out of Afghanistan after 20 years of occupation? Or is that last years news? 20 Years! Edit: Downvotes, whats the best way to deal with colossal failure... pretend like it never happened. Afghanistan, huh? what are you talking about.
Afghanistan is quite infamous for being the most difficult region to take over; the Brits and the Soviets tried before long the US did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan
I’m confused if your point is that the USA didn’t end up completely ruling over Afghanistan, so their military occupation and genocide is excusable?
Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion
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> Have you used tiktok? There’s nothing about it that isn’t addictive. I tried it for a week or so, found it not very interesting and gave up.
I noticed that the webapp doesn't show personalized content (or my privacy extensions do a wonderful job). You have to use the mobile app to see the full power.
This was with the mobile app.