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Re: Russian gas flows to Europe

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Post by gpm »

Gravityloss wrote: post #5
blibble wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that storage looks like it's going to be gone in weeks at which point... the EU economy shuts down?

Can you be more specific? The storage graph look relatively flat to me. Interactive graph: https://agsi.gie.eu/graphs/eu

Gradually increasing in fact

Re: Russian gas flows to Europe

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Post by severino »

shmerl wrote: post #7

How fast did the rest of Europe cut ties with Nazi Germany after World War II started? Current level of feeding Russia's war machine looks bizarre.

Didn't know WWIII already started. If you meant stopping doing businesses with a country that invades another, I'm sorry to tell you that there are not enough "non-invading" countries that can sell all the resources that we in the EU need now.

Re: Russian gas flows to Europe

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Post by shmerl »

aaaaaaaaaaab wrote: post #11
shmerl wrote: post #7

How fast did the rest of Europe cut ties with Nazi Germany after World War II started? Current level of feeding Russia's war machine looks bizarre.

Which half? The nazi-occupied half, or the nazi-allied half?

Obviously anti-Nazi allied part.

Re: Russian gas flows to Europe

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Post by difosfor »

shmerl wrote: post #7

How fast did the rest of Europe cut ties with Nazi Germany after World War II started? Current level of feeding Russia's war machine looks bizarre.

What's the alternative though? I also wish we would completely stop paying Russia, but this will come at incredible financial and stability (i.e: Europe falling apart) costs. Perhaps we should increase our spending on ending the war sooner instead. I don't know. We're caught between a rock and a hard place.

Re: Russian gas flows to Europe

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Post by shmerl »

severino wrote: post #13
shmerl wrote: post #7

How fast did the rest of Europe cut ties with Nazi Germany after World War II started? Current level of feeding Russia's war machine looks bizarre.

Didn't know WWIII already started. If you meant stopping doing businesses with a country that invades another, I'm sorry to tell you that there are not enough "non-invading" countries that can sell all the resources that we in the EU need now.

Exactly my point. Trying to whitewash this with "need to do business" isn't helping your arguments. Some tried to use same ones for doing business with Nazis during WWII. They very much don't like when anyone reminds about it today.

Same will be for anyone who is doing business with Putin's fascists today.

Re: Russian gas flows to Europe

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Post by marbu »

kzrdude wrote: post #10
phoronixrly wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it correct though, or is it a result of incomplete data?

Probably the latter. The big drop is not consistent with the withdrawal plot (no spike in that one.)

Agreed, such withdrawal would be a bit weird. Also note this warning on the top of the page:

> Be careful, this realtime graph is not always correct (especially the last hour)!

Re: Russian gas flows to Europe

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Post by kazen44 »

shmerl wrote: post #7

How fast did the rest of Europe cut ties with Nazi Germany after World War II started? Current level of feeding Russia's war machine looks bizarre.

what does this have to do with OP's post?

Also, your question is far more complex and not comparable to the russo-ukraine war.

For one, the geo-political situation prior to WW2 and especially compared to today might aswell be from a completely different planet. Prior to world war 2, a intranational political union like the EU did not exist, not to mention most countries in europe weren't democracies at the time.

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