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Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by peoplefromibiza » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:21 PM UTC

yucky wrote: post #193

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> Knowledge and transparency is oxygen to a democracy Democracy can wait a week or two when a man is murdered that way Freedom means also that you have to earn it, if people can't wait to speculate online about things that are still being investigated, they probably don't deserve it. --- What if they waited a bit more before putting Lee Harvey Oswald on the front page of every newspaper? Maybe he would still be alive…

>Freedom means also that you have to earn it Freedom isn't earned, authority is. Freedom is the default nature of man. Those in power who seek to limit freedom, must earn that right. And it can be quickly withdrawn.

> Freedom is the default nature of man

There's nothing natural in modern society.

The only natural freedom is the freedom to survive.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by numpad0 » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:24 PM UTC

distantsounds wrote: post #160

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What was the previous name of Perfect Dark?

it was called "Share" and before that there was WinNy, a fork of the WinMX p2p client.

It was a four letter name that I’m not comfortable posting here…

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by wronglyprepaid » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:24 PM UTC

andrepd wrote: post #125

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It's funny because not only are you making the most un-original joke possible, you are also factually wrong (see sibling post).

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Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by wronglyprepaid » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:26 PM UTC

mkr-hn wrote: post #111

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You sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_2016_Uni... >> 'A 2018 study found that media coverage of Trump led to increased public support for him during the primaries. The study showed that Trump received nearly $2 billion in free media, more than double any other candidate. Political scientist John M. Sides argued that Trump's polling surge was "almost certainly" due to frequent media…

Not sure how what you cites implies the media was fawning over Trump, if I recall correctly the coverage was not exactly positive, and I explicitly mentioned singing the praises of, not just reporting.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by wronglyprepaid » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:27 PM UTC

noSyncCloud wrote: post #129

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Disappointing that this kind of exclusionary rhetoric gets play on HN.

Being against hate and for protecting black and Trans bodies and birthing people is not exclusionary.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by wronglyprepaid » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:29 PM UTC

headsoup wrote: post #123

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How is Biden historical already? 'actual good,' is that like the no true Scotsman of good?

The Biden-Harris economic strategy is producing historic results: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases...

Also he is the first president with a female black LGBTQI+ press secretary, He also appointed the first female four star admiral and nominated the first black female supreme court justice. He also has a historically strong mandate as more people voted for him than any other presidential candidate in history.

I can go on but I think if you Google Biden and historical you will find many more examples.

Also CNN made a list here https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/politics/historic-firsts-bide... and this was from before he even took office, which should be a good indicator of just how historic he is.

And another list by people https://people.com/politics/here-are-all-of-the-historic-fir...

Biden is likely the most historically significant president in the history of the united states[1].

I think nothing is a better indicator of a robust democracy than press who recognizes greatness when they see it.

[1]: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases...

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by donatj » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:30 PM UTC

NikolaNovak wrote: post #218

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Replace "Moonie" with any mainstream religion and mention of race with the race such religion most widely applies to, and I hope the bigotry of this comment becomes far more clear.

I agree with you on "replace it with any religion" but I don't find it bigotry necessarily - I am averse to any and all religious influence on anything, and I'm happy to see it brought up to attention and awareness everywhere. As to the frequent Venn diagram overlap of locally predominant religion with corresponding country / nationality / ethnicity / etc, while that frequently the case, I agree we should focus on th…

> think twice before giving them money because you'd be supporting the late George Bush Sr's 2nd-favorite cult.

> They also own The Washington Times and United Press International (UPI).

> And True World Foods, which runs a major portion of the sushi trade in the US.

> Numerous other innocent-sounding organizations in many, many sports, interest groups, and industries.

Like if someone wrote any of that about Jews, there would be no doubt in anyone's mind that they were an anti-semite.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by ThePadawan » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:30 PM UTC

duckmysick wrote: post #101

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I like the model of ths German Bundespressekonferenz where an organization made up of journalists invites the German goverment for press conferences instead of the other way around. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundespressekonferenz#Organisa...

Can the journalist organization exclude its members if they break ranks, so to speak?

I'm going to contradict sibling and say "Yes".

It's just a Verein (untranslateable, but let's say 'private association/club') with members.

They can refuse to accept members for any reason, and they can kick out members for the reasons they themselves specify.

Currently this section (§14) reads they can kick out members "that are a danger to the purpose of the association or are harmful to its reputation or interests".

So (read cynically) pretty much any reason.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:31 PM UTC

suction wrote: post #154

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Strange. I don't see how it could be more controversial than his well known links to Nippon Kaigi. I mean, the cult connection is only important for the fact that someone killed him for it. And I am going to guess that it tells you something about the deranged mind of the killer, and probably not much interesting about Abe. Edit: I mean, come on, "newsflash: prominent politician involved in dubious business or accoun…

It could be controversial because it's a Korean sect and Abe was a nationalist hardliner whose image was that he would make Japan "proud" again by refreezing relations with China and Korea. So if he had connections to a Korean sect, and knowing what sects do, the next logical step would be to assume that he was controlled by or at least open to Korean interests, which is the opposite of what people elected him for, a…

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Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by monocasa » Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 2:33 PM UTC

mkr-hn wrote: post #111

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You sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_2016_Uni... >> 'A 2018 study found that media coverage of Trump led to increased public support for him during the primaries. The study showed that Trump received nearly $2 billion in free media, more than double any other candidate. Political scientist John M. Sides argued that Trump's polling surge was "almost certainly" due to frequent media…

There was also Clinton's campaign instructing the media to give Trump a disproportionate amount of coverage under the idea that trump would be easy to beat, or at least making him stronger would make whichever Republican won the 2016 primaries weaker. Didn't work out that way.

https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaig...