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The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by edvards »

cuteboy19 wrote: post #109
cvccvroomvroom wrote: post #100

The Moonies, often represented in America by some unfortunate Korean boy or girl, beg for money at American universities in exchange for food and lodging. It's essentially human trafficking and indentured servitude because they're trapped in a foreign country. So, if see someone who doesn't speak English who shoved a photo montage flip book clipboard of deprivation in front of you, think twice before giving them mone…

Is it a requirement for every Asian cult to own a few American newspapers? I know of two others

Can you tell about the two others?

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by dmurray »

pmoriarty wrote: post #112
guerrilla wrote: post #49

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This is the same in every country, including the US where entire agencies will just stop talking to you if you piss them off (especially police departments.) It's one of the ways we get all this propaganda even though we have a nominally "free" press.

"This is the same in every country, including the US where entire agencies will just stop talking to you if you piss them off" They only stop talking to you through official channels. There will always be leakers, disgruntled employees and others willing to talk to you anonymously or unofficially. Not to mention that you can talk to people and ask questions without announcing that you're a reporter. This used to be c…

Investigative journalism is at an all time low at the moment: it's simply too expensive. Rephrased press releases from corporations, government bodies and celebrities sell just as well and the PR firms take full advantage of that.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by headsoup »

wronglyprepaid wrote: post #99
ekianjo wrote: post #29

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all these news organizations in Japan are nothing but government mouthpieces. When Abe was in power the journalists could not stop singing his praises and how smart the whole "Abenomics" was supposed to be.

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How is Biden historical already?

'actual good,' is that like the no true Scotsman of good?

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by makeitdouble »

pmoriarty wrote: post #110
thematrixturtle wrote: post #33

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It's not about "licenses to exist", but access to the press clubs (kisha clubs). Basically, if the government doesn't like what you print/say, you get frozen out the clubs and hence out of all government news. https://freespeechdebate.com/discuss/an-impregnable-fortress...

"if the government doesn't like what you print/say, you get frozen out the clubs and hence out of all government news" What happened to independent investigative reporting?

They don’t get invited and do their own investigation and reporting instead of paraphrasing government announcements.

I think it’s the same pattern in many countries, where there will be two different rythme: almost immediate news with official communication coming in near real-time, and a second wave of news from journalists who took more time to form an opinion/check what they want to publish. Both waves happen in big newspapers, independent ones only bet on the second wave.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by andrepd »

wronglyprepaid wrote: post #99
ekianjo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

all these news organizations in Japan are nothing but government mouthpieces. When Abe was in power the journalists could not stop singing his praises and how smart the whole "Abenomics" was supposed to be.

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It's funny because not only are you making the most un-original joke possible, you are also factually wrong (see sibling post).

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by shp0ngle »

edvards wrote: post #121
cuteboy19 wrote: post #109

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Is it a requirement for every Asian cult to own a few American newspapers? I know of two others

Can you tell about the two others?

The Epoch Times is owned by Falun Gong. (They are apocalyptic/UFO/meditation cult, they have been banned in China and, if you believe their claims, organ harvested. I don’t know how much to believe those claims, but China does keep a lot of things with organs weirdly secret. FG are present at every anti-Chinese protest. They also do the Chinese ballet which name I forgot now…. ah yeah Shen Yun)

I don’t know any other.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by dmurray »

tkgally wrote: post #42
Larrikin wrote: post #25

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It was explained to me when I lived in Japan, that while there are many Japanese media companies that exist independently in Japan, they all have to go to one central government body to renew their licenses to exist. They get some leeway but it's it's not much

There is no licensing of the print or online media in Japan. However, there are a number of factors that effectively limit the freedom of many media outlets. The kisha clubs [1], which control media access to government officials and the police, are restricted to reporters from major media organizations. The tabloid press frequently complains about those restrictions and use those restrictions as justification for th…

> An amusing one that I remember is when a magazine was not allowed to include the term shōgi daoshi—literally, “falling over like shogi pieces”

An amusing one on multiple levels. Standard shogi pieces don't fall over! They're not miniature statues like in Western chess, but flat reversible tiles [0]. It's like it was written by a Western journalist who needed to translate his idiom into Japanese.

[0] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Sh...

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by jacquesm »

Aeolun wrote: post #83
CodeArtisan wrote: post #72

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Abe was not supposed to be here, his speech was planned to happen in another city but instead it was decided to go to Nara the evening before. The killer couldn't have planned to kill Abe.

The killer could have gone anywhere Abe was?

Not without outside help, and there is no evidence of that so this is quite speculative. I don't think it is possible for an individual to track a high ranking former official like that without being noticed so personally I see this as coincidence rather than anything else. And that may well explain the reluctance to go further in their statements by the media, they are likely just waiting for the results of the investigation.

Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe

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Post by noSyncCloud »

wronglyprepaid wrote: post #99
ekianjo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

all these news organizations in Japan are nothing but government mouthpieces. When Abe was in power the journalists could not stop singing his praises and how smart the whole "Abenomics" was supposed to be.

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Disappointing that this kind of exclusionary rhetoric gets play on HN.
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