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Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Post by tastyfreeze »

kmbfjr wrote: post #305
tastyfreeze wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glyphosate is sprayed on some grain crops prior to harvest to force a whole field into senescence at the same time.

Which species of crops? Because I have never seen that with winter wheat, common oats, #2 dent corn, soybeans or sorghum. They grow all of that within 300’ of my home. It may be that the farms near me are worked by smaller operators and they are not paying professional harvesting to bring in the crops in on a schedule. But not letting the grain mature on its own seems like a good way to take less money when sold at t…

Sounds like you are much closer to production than me. Pre-harvest spraying is only something I have read about. Around here we talk about grades of seafood not crops. Here are a few sources I found recommending pre-harvest spraying and one talking about ending the practice in Canada.

US:

https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/glyphosate-use-as-...

https://extension.umn.edu/small-grains-harvest-and-storage/m...

UK:

https://ahdb.org.uk/knowledge-library/pre-harvest-glyphosate...

Australia:

https://grdc.com.au/resources-and-publications/all-publicati...

Canada:

https://non-gmoreport.com/articles/days-are-numbered-for-pre...

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Post by jelliclesfarm »

csisnett wrote: post #278
jelliclesfarm wrote: post #165

Monsanto has poisoned the world..not just the US. Now that it sold out to Bayer, most of the world is fed by the same powers that made Agent Orange and Napalm. Our food is grown with fossil fuels and chemicals. It’s chemical warfare on soil and water. Glyphosate gets into us due to runoff’s into the water system and the aquifers. This is food grown as fodder and it gets into animals and then into us. It’s hideously o…

Meat is good for you

It is not good for the planet.

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Post by tomohawk »

hammock wrote: post #218
tomohawk wrote: post #103

If you're eating anything with oats grown in the US, especially things like Cheerios, you're likely getting a big dose of glyphosate. They spray this on the oats to kill and dessicate them prior to harvest to prevent the crop from being ruined by rain.

Does that include organic oats?

It's not supposed to, however, most brands are not certified or tested in any way.

https://www.ewg.org/childrenshealth/monsanto-weedkiller-stil...

Even reputable brands like Bob's Red Mill have had issues. After some of their products tested positive, they apparently took some measures:

https://www.bobsredmill.com/blog/healthy-living/bobs-red-mil...

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Post by dredmorbius »

zzzeek wrote: post #328
omginternets wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was speaking scientifically.

i was speaking legally

Agreement on terms and context is critical to discussion.

(Applies to this entire thread, not just parent comment.)

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Post by trash3 »

tomp wrote: post #296
whimsicalism wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of reasons. That is one large one, but you can also integrate natural pesticides into the genome of the plant, ie. Bt corn.

Which could be equally dangerous as external pesticides like glyphosate.

What's your source that's an outrageous claim

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Post by yarg »

dredmorbius wrote: post #290
omginternets wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t prove a product is safe. You fail to prove it isn’t.

In a civil lawsuit, the actual legal standard is "preponderance of evidence". Factor that by cost of defending the case and potential risk of payout in that and future cases as well. A multimillion dollar settlement suggests some doubt on the part of the defendant to establish their case.

If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

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Post by Retric »

Supermancho wrote: post #326
Retric wrote: post #295

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That’s a logical assumption without direct archaeological support. Remember we started with wild plants so a significant energy investments beyond throwing seeds may simply have been wasted effort because it’s less needed and has lower rewards. Further removing competitors is a non obvious behavor. The benefits of a possible harvest increased after destination so the time lag between just tossing seeds and active far…

> That’s a logical assumption without direct archaeological support. It's what people do without any training. It's not necessary to have archaeological support for instinctive behavior. There's no archaeological support people swatted at flies during that time period. Again, this is rather pointless when you're arguing that early man was less capable than a child. GL with whatever.

Children don’t clear weeds instinctivly, it’s learned behavior.

Tossing seeds around can however be accidental, you can easily do it without intention.

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Post by pcdoodle »

telesoft wrote: post #239
user3939382 wrote: post #208

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As far as I’m concerned Bayer and Monsanto are like evil incarnate and last time I brought up this lawsuit on HN I was shocked people were defending them. We’re talking about the company that intentionally sold HIV infected blood to people. If it was legal and they could increase profits by lighting people on fire they would do it. Yet people trust corrupt research that they paid for showing their product is safe. We…

>people were defending them. I believe that some company monitors websites like reddit and twitter for talk about Monsanto or Big Oil (fracking) and that company pays shills to defend them.

This is a bigger problem than most realize.

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

tomp wrote: post #297
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Isn't part of the benefit of GMO foods that you can make them tolerant to various pesticides? and diseases and parasites and weather etc etc

um... how do you think plants become tolerant to diseases and parasites? pesticides

and altering their DNA

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5422515/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5488630/

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Post by randomdata »

abe_duarte wrote: post #39
microSnowball wrote: post #21

Not knowing anything about glyphosate, I went to the article before reading the comments. I’ll just put this here because it was clear the researchers wanted to be sure people see it. From the first paragraph of the article—> > In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer determined that glyphosate is a “probable human carcinogen” (IARC, 2015). However, the European Food Safety Authority and the Joint Foo…

People who have been exposed to the chemical got cancer. Internal Monsanto documents show the link and their concern. A man got a court to rule in his favour for 289 million dollars, after the jury saw this evidence: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-tr...

The jury believed that surfactants added to the product sold under the Roundup brand, not glyphosate itself, was the cause of cancer in that case.
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