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Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

jancsika wrote: post #225
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #170

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olive oil is great and I could not live without it, but I would not drink a glass of it it for no reason!

If I got paid by Big Olive as a lobbyist I'd at least take a swig. (I believe that lobbyist made a claim about drinking a spoonful.) Then I'd probably cough and pivot to how to tell the difference between high quality olive oil and what the fraudsters are pushing. I'd celebrate the good work of my good friends at the California Olive Oil Council and many others to address the growing problem of fake olive oils. Let's…

A spoon is good for your health, a glass will make you run to the toilet if not worse.

It's also very hard to swallow even in modest quantities.

Not surprisingly it was one of the most popular forms of punishment and humiliation fascist blackshirts used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castor_oil#Punishment

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Post by newguynewphone »

IncRnd wrote: post #219
dodgerdan wrote: post #150

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Show me an example of that where the payment was over $1bn.

It took me less than 10 seconds to find. "Companies Finalize $26 Billion Deal With States and Cities to End Opioid Lawsuits" [1] "Judge approves $1 billion settlement for victims of deadly Florida condo collapse" [2] "39 State Attorneys General Announce $1.85 Billion Settlement with Student Loan Servicer Navient" [3] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/health/opioids-settlement... [2] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/…

wait are you suggesting this companies were not guilty? are we reading the same settlements?

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Post by marc_abonce »

user3939382 wrote: post #208
abe_duarte wrote: post #39

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People who have been exposed to the chemical got cancer. Internal Monsanto documents show the link and their concern. A man got a court to rule in his favour for 289 million dollars, after the jury saw this evidence: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-tr...

As far as I’m concerned Bayer and Monsanto are like evil incarnate and last time I brought up this lawsuit on HN I was shocked people were defending them. We’re talking about the company that intentionally sold HIV infected blood to people. If it was legal and they could increase profits by lighting people on fire they would do it. Yet people trust corrupt research that they paid for showing their product is safe. We…

> Bayer [...] intentionally sold HIV infected blood to people.

I had no idea about this. For anyone else that's curious:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/23/aids.suzannego... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_haemophilia_blood...

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Post by adamredwoods »

grendelt wrote: post #69
microSnowball wrote: post #21

Not knowing anything about glyphosate, I went to the article before reading the comments. I’ll just put this here because it was clear the researchers wanted to be sure people see it. From the first paragraph of the article—> > In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer determined that glyphosate is a “probable human carcinogen” (IARC, 2015). However, the European Food Safety Authority and the Joint Foo…

The back and forth with regulatory agencies is so frustrating. Another user here pointed out a while back that the better regulatory model, when it comes to health, is to put the onus on the supplier. We must scientifically prove the thing is safe to use, not have to prove it is unsafe to be removed.

A difficult task indeed: red dye no. 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaranth_(dye)

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Post by wyre »

nemo44x wrote: post #53
535188B17C93743 wrote: post #7

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Lawns are awful for the environment, and lawn care is a large part of this. Why we still have golf courses in any area that is regularly in drought is beyond me.

Swimming pools are worse. Let’s ban those first.

Please show some sources or math that swimming pools are worse than gold courses

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Post by JamesBarney »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #143
thfuran wrote: post #127

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That would pretty much mean no new chemicals could be used for anything ever.

Some would consider that a good tradeoff for stopping cancerous forever chemicals from being in 80% of pee. And it will be less, not no.

They probably haven't thought through all the good chemicals have done. If we stopped all progress in chemicals 100 years ago our world would like a very different place.

A less wealthy place where more people died of starvation.

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Post by adrr »

abe_duarte wrote: post #39
microSnowball wrote: post #21

Not knowing anything about glyphosate, I went to the article before reading the comments. I’ll just put this here because it was clear the researchers wanted to be sure people see it. From the first paragraph of the article—> > In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer determined that glyphosate is a “probable human carcinogen” (IARC, 2015). However, the European Food Safety Authority and the Joint Foo…

People who have been exposed to the chemical got cancer. Internal Monsanto documents show the link and their concern. A man got a court to rule in his favour for 289 million dollars, after the jury saw this evidence: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-tr...

There’s more than glyphosate in roundup. Also if glyphosate increased the risk of cancer, we would see cancer increase when it started to get widely used. Cancer rates except for skin cancer keep falling.

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Post by JamesBarney »

ramphastidae wrote: post #151

Society loves to make fun of those who choose organic produce, but avoiding glysophate is the main reason I do so, and it works: > Organic diet intervention significantly reduces urinary glyphosate levels in U.S. children and adults > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001393512...

But what does it do to the levels of organic pesticides?

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Post by telesoft »

user3939382 wrote: post #208
abe_duarte wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who have been exposed to the chemical got cancer. Internal Monsanto documents show the link and their concern. A man got a court to rule in his favour for 289 million dollars, after the jury saw this evidence: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-tr...

As far as I’m concerned Bayer and Monsanto are like evil incarnate and last time I brought up this lawsuit on HN I was shocked people were defending them. We’re talking about the company that intentionally sold HIV infected blood to people. If it was legal and they could increase profits by lighting people on fire they would do it. Yet people trust corrupt research that they paid for showing their product is safe. We…

>people were defending them.

I believe that some company monitors websites like reddit and twitter for talk about Monsanto or Big Oil (fracking) and that company pays shills to defend them.

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Post by colpabar »

user3939382 wrote: post #208
abe_duarte wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who have been exposed to the chemical got cancer. Internal Monsanto documents show the link and their concern. A man got a court to rule in his favour for 289 million dollars, after the jury saw this evidence: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-tr...

As far as I’m concerned Bayer and Monsanto are like evil incarnate and last time I brought up this lawsuit on HN I was shocked people were defending them. We’re talking about the company that intentionally sold HIV infected blood to people. If it was legal and they could increase profits by lighting people on fire they would do it. Yet people trust corrupt research that they paid for showing their product is safe. We…

I don’t know which thread it was but I have seen the same thing. Apparently considering a company’s past actions when judging their current actions is “childish” because all the bad people left after they got in trouble and everyone there is good now. What a load of crap!
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