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Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Post by mkoubaa »

i_am_jl wrote: post #70
d0mine wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bees won't survive until it (if ever) happens. We are likely too. It is like relying on aliens to bring peace on Earth. Outlawing glyphosate would fix it (people did agriculture before 1974 (without drones)). Though it is almost as unlikely as aliens.

>people did agriculture before 1974 (without drones) We've added about 3.8 billion people to the planet since then. I'm not saying that we can't feed the world without glyphosate, but "Let's just do it like we did in '74!" doesn't account for the fact that we need a lot more food today.

Child labor was allowed back then too, which solved both child obesity AND weeds

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Post by Retric »

whimsicalism wrote: post #28
Retric wrote: post #14

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Farming existed before weed killing. It's extremely useful but output doesn't drop to zero without it.

> Farming existed before weed killing Farming existed before pesticide .

Farming existed before people.

Humanity has gotten very good at it and weedkilling is a big part of it. But, wild plants propagate quite well on their own, spending seeds of things you want more of results in more of that species. Preparing the environment and selecting seeds ca push that much further but the absolute minimum threshold is very low. Toss eaten apples into your yard, and eventually you get apple trees.

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Post by progre »

goodpoint wrote: post #68
sudden_dystopia wrote: post #19

Yet another reason to avoid grains, soy, and processed foods. I would love to see some meat tested to see if it’s still detected in the meat after the animals eat the tainted corn.

meat is a known carcinogenic in itself. EDIT: spare the stupid downvotes. Here: https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/can...

Hot water is a known carcinogenic.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2...

It's there, in the statistics. The thing is, the risks of eating meat or drinking hot espressos are like national lottery kind of probabilities. Not like asbestos or carbon particles, wich have more like rock paper scissor kind of probabilities.

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Post by IncRnd »

dodgerdan wrote: post #55
microSnowball wrote: post #21

Not knowing anything about glyphosate, I went to the article before reading the comments. I’ll just put this here because it was clear the researchers wanted to be sure people see it. From the first paragraph of the article—> > In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer determined that glyphosate is a “probable human carcinogen” (IARC, 2015). However, the European Food Safety Authority and the Joint Foo…

Monsanto settled a batch of civil cases regarding Roundup for $10bn. No one settle’s for that sum unless they’re guilty. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/business/roundup-settleme...

While Monsanto was guilty, many companies and people settle for large amounts of money even when not guilty. Settling is often about cost not guilt. A company settles to reduce future risks and to stop unbounded lawsuit costs.

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Post by jxramos »

41b696ef1113 wrote: post #56
pockethook wrote: post #30

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Tensorfield Agriculture make robots that kill weeds with hot canola oil: https://tensorfield.ag/

That is amazing. I do not know anything about plants - is this approach generically applicable for all crops or are there limitations on what kinds of weeds are likely to grow in a field? For example: weeds in wheat fields are too visually similar/closely spaced/different life cycle than the cash crop for this to work?

The further you let them grow the more differentiated they become. So time could be leaned on as a predictor. But even at the very young cotlydon phase you can differentiate between certain species, even at the level of seeds. It depends how closely related things are of course but with time every plant identifies itself pretty much.

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Post by pstuart »

pockethook wrote: post #30
checker wrote: post #3

How far off are we from having drones that mechanically remove weeds at a reasonable cost? It's ridiculous that we put up with spraying sketchy chemicals on our food. We can build loyal wingman drones to kill enemy aircraft but we can't kill weeds?? Edit: I'm talking about farming, not lawns. RTFA

Tensorfield Agriculture make robots that kill weeds with hot canola oil: https://tensorfield.ag/

Steam looks promising too: https://www.weedtechnics.com/does-steam-weed-control-actuall...

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Post by tastyfreeze »

nverno wrote: post #42
sudden_dystopia wrote: post #19

Yet another reason to avoid grains, soy, and processed foods. I would love to see some meat tested to see if it’s still detected in the meat after the animals eat the tainted corn.

Is there some indication it is more prevalent in processed foods? That wasn't indicated in the article afaict. Also, they mention it's used across a wider range of crops than just soy and grains sadly.

Glyphosate is sprayed on some grain crops prior to harvest to force a whole field into senescence at the same time.
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