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Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

dugmartin wrote: post #46

I'm wondering with the (permanent?) switch to work from home if laptop sales will go down. I've replaced both my personal and work laptops with System76 Meerkat mini PCs both running stock Unbuntu using Regolith for the desktop environment ( https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat ). They are stacked on top of each other on my desk and take up next to no space. I work from home (and have since 1999) and don't travel fo…

>the (permanent?) switch to work from home

Don't know where you live but where I do (Austria) nearly all companies, big or small, have employees back into the office.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by rawoke083600 »

sph wrote: post #65
rawoke083600 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one said it was. But for some people for some problems what they have is definitely good enough. Example: hdd to ssd (huge quantitative improvement if you measure speeds). As you rightly said. To my eyes(bad eyes) 1080p is enough, 4k might look slightly better but no way near in the same ballpark as hdd to ssd. Maybe its the fonts, workflow or fontsize i use but 4k fonts does not not x5 or x10 better than 1080p fo…

I have bad eyes but apparently not as bad as yours. Let's go ask a blind man if they prefer 1080p or 4K, that'll settle it. If you don't see the difference, it doesn't mean there's none.

Huh !? No one said 'the difference is not there'.

I said the difference is not meaningful enough (for me and many other ppl, if i read the comments) and that stating that 1080p 'is simply a none starter' and it 'cannot' render text 'correctly' it not true. It can render it more correctly yes.

To be really annoying even 8k wont render text 100% correctly since if there is a circle like section example 'p' or 'b' no pixel based device would be able to give a 'true rendition' of the symbol since you need basically infinite precision to correctly display a circle like concept on gridbased scheme(i.e pixel based display)

Sure a 4k or 8k will approximate it better but(and this is really my point

4k or 8k wil be better(yes) but 1080p it sufficient for a good subset of ppl.

Not really sure how the blind man helps either side of this discussion ?

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by gfrff »

rawoke083600 wrote: post #50
sph wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HDD -> SSD is an enormous difference. SSD -> NVMe, better but not so dramatic. 1080p -> 4K is an enormous difference. 4K -> 8K, better but not so dramatic. The rate of improvement is not linear.

No one said it was. But for some people for some problems what they have is definitely good enough. Example: hdd to ssd (huge quantitative improvement if you measure speeds). As you rightly said. To my eyes(bad eyes) 1080p is enough, 4k might look slightly better but no way near in the same ballpark as hdd to ssd. Maybe its the fonts, workflow or fontsize i use but 4k fonts does not not x5 or x10 better than 1080p fo…

For a laptop, I see diminishing returns at 3200x1800. That's as low as I'm go. 4k is preferred and now common. I don't need more.

Ironically, almost all phones I look at have more pixels than I need. Laptops are only recently easily available with reasonable pixel density. For a while, common phones had higher resolution (not just density) than laptops.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by lordnacho »

dugmartin wrote: post #46

I'm wondering with the (permanent?) switch to work from home if laptop sales will go down. I've replaced both my personal and work laptops with System76 Meerkat mini PCs both running stock Unbuntu using Regolith for the desktop environment ( https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat ). They are stacked on top of each other on my desk and take up next to no space. I work from home (and have since 1999) and don't travel fo…

But a laptop still gives you the option to go work in a park or a café. Anything taxing can be done on a remote server anyway so raw power hardly matters.

Personally I don't think I'll ever get a desktop setup.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by iasay »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #90
nicexe wrote: post #88

What is it with the weird RAM configurations? It looks like they have 8GB embedded (soldered) to the motherboard. The choices for RAM configuration come down to 8GB, 2x8GB, 8GB + 16GB and 8GB + 32GB. That makes the second option the only dual channel configuration. Going past 2x8GB is not a real upgrade but more like a side-grade.

Yeah, I hate this too. Either solder both in a sane dial channel configuration or have both socketed. What is it with this 8GB soldered, one socket free thing?

Manufacturing cost reduction.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by iasay »

minimaul wrote: post #64
dugmartin wrote: post #46

I'm wondering with the (permanent?) switch to work from home if laptop sales will go down. I've replaced both my personal and work laptops with System76 Meerkat mini PCs both running stock Unbuntu using Regolith for the desktop environment ( https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat ). They are stacked on top of each other on my desk and take up next to no space. I work from home (and have since 1999) and don't travel fo…

OOI, why System76 for those? As far as I can tell they're just off-the-shelf NUCs, and System76 are ~$200 more for a sensible spec than buying the NUC, some RAM and a good NVMe drive yourself. How do you find them for noise? I had an 8th gen NUC that was unbearable under high CPU load - I replaced it with a slightly larger ASRock DeskMini X300 with Ryzen 5750GE and Noctua AM4 cooler that is silent, even under full lo…

Even better there are lots of new unused Lenovo 11th gen Intel mini PCs lurking on eBay for less than half the price. They have two RAM slots, SSD cradle and up to two NVMe slots and have vendor Linux certification out of the box.

I set one up last week for someone and it’ll drive two 4k displays fine. Granted that was under windows.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by divan »

unrealhoang wrote: post #6

Non-hiDPI display in 2022 is a non-starter. There’s simply not enough pixels to display text correctly with full hd.

Probably 'correctly' is not the right word here.

I often code for 12+ hours straight and the only way to keep up with such a stress on eyes is to use bigger fonts and not focus too much on text (i.e. engage in a slightly defocused vision).

Which means I never use small fonts, though I see a lot of people who code on 13-15 inch screens with super tiny fonts.

Naturally, once you have to use large fonts you end up using large screens (I'm currently on 49 inch ultra-wide Samsung 32:9 screen) and it's the best setup for coding I can imagine.

Still when coding on a laptop, I sacrifice window splits and stuff like that but not the font size. So Macbook Pro resultion is even too high for me, and I'm quite happy with FullHD laptops as well.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by sascha_sl »

iasay wrote: post #95
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I hate this too. Either solder both in a sane dial channel configuration or have both socketed. What is it with this 8GB soldered, one socket free thing?

Manufacturing cost reduction.

It's a weird trade off to make on a business laptop, but everyone does it now, including Lenovo with ThinkPads.

If you want the upgradability and ports of a 2011 Thinkpad you need to buy a budget gaming laptop now.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by pmoriarty »

nicexe wrote: post #88

What is it with the weird RAM configurations? It looks like they have 8GB embedded (soldered) to the motherboard. The choices for RAM configuration come down to 8GB, 2x8GB, 8GB + 16GB and 8GB + 32GB. That makes the second option the only dual channel configuration. Going past 2x8GB is not a real upgrade but more like a side-grade.

Soldered, non-upgradable hardware is the bane of my existence.
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