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Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by bjoli »

dugmartin wrote: post #46

I'm wondering with the (permanent?) switch to work from home if laptop sales will go down. I've replaced both my personal and work laptops with System76 Meerkat mini PCs both running stock Unbuntu using Regolith for the desktop environment ( https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat ). They are stacked on top of each other on my desk and take up next to no space. I work from home (and have since 1999) and don't travel fo…

I got an Hp prodesk for a something like 140 bucks (8500t) a couple of years ago from a company that went bankrupt.

My laptop stopped working and I never got a new one.

Now I have a proper monitor (4k, 27 inch), proper keyboard (Matias quiet click), a proper mouse (Logitech trackball), and a proper webcam (some cheap 1080p one I bought from amazon that beats everything in a laptop).

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by fmajid »

dugmartin wrote: post #46

I'm wondering with the (permanent?) switch to work from home if laptop sales will go down. I've replaced both my personal and work laptops with System76 Meerkat mini PCs both running stock Unbuntu using Regolith for the desktop environment ( https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat ). They are stacked on top of each other on my desk and take up next to no space. I work from home (and have since 1999) and don't travel fo…

I never abandoned desktops for laptops (I use them only for travel), but many people don't have a dedicated office space at home so a laptop is their only real option.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by blumomo »

solarkraft wrote: post #73

Apple's 20-hours claims are actually real. I wonder how real these are. My experience with Linux has seen claims like this melt down to 2-3 hours in normal use .

I use a lemp10, the previous model with 11th gen i7. 15 hours of use are definitely possible in light use (low but sufficient screen brightness, disabling turbo boost), i.e. browsing, some video watching, text editing. Even running docker and compiling doesn’t hurt much. The battery life is so good that I maxed the charging level at 85% to increase the longevity of the battery. I can still work a full day off a single charge.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by asoneth »

minimaul wrote: post #64
dugmartin wrote: post #46

I'm wondering with the (permanent?) switch to work from home if laptop sales will go down. I've replaced both my personal and work laptops with System76 Meerkat mini PCs both running stock Unbuntu using Regolith for the desktop environment ( https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat ). They are stacked on top of each other on my desk and take up next to no space. I work from home (and have since 1999) and don't travel fo…

OOI, why System76 for those? As far as I can tell they're just off-the-shelf NUCs, and System76 are ~$200 more for a sensible spec than buying the NUC, some RAM and a good NVMe drive yourself. How do you find them for noise? I had an 8th gen NUC that was unbearable under high CPU load - I replaced it with a slightly larger ASRock DeskMini X300 with Ryzen 5750GE and Noctua AM4 cooler that is silent, even under full lo…

> OOI, why System76 for those?

Not the original poster, but +$200 would be reasonable for me.

The last computer I built was twenty years ago so I would have to do at least a couple hours of research to find out what sites and stores are reliable, read component reviews, etc. None of that information is useful or interesting to me beyond getting the computer up and running. And there's a slight chance that despite my best efforts I would make a mistake end up buying a collection of components that are incompatible, don't work optimally together, are back-ordered, or are missing drivers or something. Then I spend another couple hours on forums trying to get everything working.

On the other hand, for an extra $200 I can spend five minutes configuring a tested configuration that comes with tech support if something is wonky, and kicks a few bucks to people trying to support Linux.

Given the value I place on my free time the latter is significantly cheaper. If you already posses the expertise, enjoy that kind of work, or do not place a high monetary value on your time then the former might be cheaper.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by dugmartin »

minimaul wrote: post #64
dugmartin wrote: post #46

I'm wondering with the (permanent?) switch to work from home if laptop sales will go down. I've replaced both my personal and work laptops with System76 Meerkat mini PCs both running stock Unbuntu using Regolith for the desktop environment ( https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat ). They are stacked on top of each other on my desk and take up next to no space. I work from home (and have since 1999) and don't travel fo…

OOI, why System76 for those? As far as I can tell they're just off-the-shelf NUCs, and System76 are ~$200 more for a sensible spec than buying the NUC, some RAM and a good NVMe drive yourself. How do you find them for noise? I had an 8th gen NUC that was unbearable under high CPU load - I replaced it with a slightly larger ASRock DeskMini X300 with Ryzen 5750GE and Noctua AM4 cooler that is silent, even under full lo…

I'm at an age and point in my career that paying $200 extra to not have to figure out what components to buy and assembling it is worth the money. I did have a Franken-desktop in my 20s that I upgraded a lot (from 386 through Pentium 2) but that was a long time ago.

I don't find the noise bad at all, but again, that may be my hearing going :)

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by minimaul »

asoneth wrote: post #84
minimaul wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OOI, why System76 for those? As far as I can tell they're just off-the-shelf NUCs, and System76 are ~$200 more for a sensible spec than buying the NUC, some RAM and a good NVMe drive yourself. How do you find them for noise? I had an 8th gen NUC that was unbearable under high CPU load - I replaced it with a slightly larger ASRock DeskMini X300 with Ryzen 5750GE and Noctua AM4 cooler that is silent, even under full lo…

> OOI, why System76 for those? Not the original poster, but +$200 would be reasonable for me. The last computer I built was twenty years ago so I would have to do at least a couple hours of research to find out what sites and stores are reliable, read component reviews, etc. None of that information is useful or interesting to me beyond getting the computer up and running. And there's a slight chance that despite my…

Hm, that's fair enough for a more complex desktop build in my opinion (except for the unfortunate fact that you often end up with paying a premium for worse hardware that way), but in this case the NUC is an off-the-shelf standard barebone that is widely available - the only thing you are adding is RAM and storage. You can do both of those (for reasonable prices) via Crucial's part picker, for instance - and in fact that's what I based my $200 estimate on.

It feels like an odd target market for me considering I would expect people deliberately opting for Linux to already be more adept with that kind of thing - but maybe I'm wrong!

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by nicexe »

What is it with the weird RAM configurations? It looks like they have 8GB embedded (soldered) to the motherboard.

The choices for RAM configuration come down to 8GB, 2x8GB, 8GB + 16GB and 8GB + 32GB.

That makes the second option the only dual channel configuration. Going past 2x8GB is not a real upgrade but more like a side-grade.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by minimaul »

dugmartin wrote: post #85
minimaul wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OOI, why System76 for those? As far as I can tell they're just off-the-shelf NUCs, and System76 are ~$200 more for a sensible spec than buying the NUC, some RAM and a good NVMe drive yourself. How do you find them for noise? I had an 8th gen NUC that was unbearable under high CPU load - I replaced it with a slightly larger ASRock DeskMini X300 with Ryzen 5750GE and Noctua AM4 cooler that is silent, even under full lo…

I'm at an age and point in my career that paying $200 extra to not have to figure out what components to buy and assembling it is worth the money. I did have a Franken-desktop in my 20s that I upgraded a lot (from 386 through Pentium 2) but that was a long time ago. I don't find the noise bad at all, but again, that may be my hearing going :)

I'd get that if it was a full desktop build, however in this case it's an off-the-shelf barebone that you plug two standard things into - but to each their own I guess.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

nicexe wrote: post #88

What is it with the weird RAM configurations? It looks like they have 8GB embedded (soldered) to the motherboard. The choices for RAM configuration come down to 8GB, 2x8GB, 8GB + 16GB and 8GB + 32GB. That makes the second option the only dual channel configuration. Going past 2x8GB is not a real upgrade but more like a side-grade.

Yeah, I hate this too. Either solder both in a sane dial channel configuration or have both socketed.

What is it with this 8GB soldered, one socket free thing?

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