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Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-view-of-the-rogers-c... Trust an American company to come up with a clearer picture of what's going on, highlighting the mediocrity of Canadian businesses.

Having formerly lived in Canada for 30 years, I can concur.

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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post #48

At what point does the anti-competitive nature and monopolistic qualities of Canadian telecoms become a national security threat? Maybe when it destroys the whole Canadian economy for a day

>Maybe when it destroys the whole Canadian economy for a day

Won't happen. The average Canadians are one of the most sheep like, docile people out there.

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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In Toronto, here's a small and non-exhaustive list of affected services: - Point of sale machines. Supermarkets are accepting only cash. - ATMs. Several banks are incapable of dispensing cash. - Public transit ticketing systems. The TTC is effectively running for free, today. - Public bicycle rental stations. - Public parking locations. How long before the public realizes that we are not Rogers' customers, but its ho…

Has any of the big cities ever considered its own municipal internet? I would vote for any politician that has that as a platform immediately.

You must know that it'd run on Rogers infrastructure though.

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-view-of-the-rogers-c... Trust an American company to come up with a clearer picture of what's going on, highlighting the mediocrity of Canadian businesses.

It feels like there’s been a rash of companies messing up BGP stuff lately - Facebook, cloudflare, and now this.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. "Crown Land" in Canada is owned by the provinces. There is no such thing as a "British Crown Corporation." Crown Corporations are a Canadian thing. I lived in Canada for 30 years and now live in the Scotland. CalMac and Scottish Water are not "Crown Corporations," but are nevertheless owned and controlled by the Scottish Ministers. This is contrast to BC Ferries, ICBC, and BC Hydro which are Crown Corporations. I…

You're at a National Park. In Canada, it's crown land. In America, it's your park. The Canadian mentality is different.

National Parks are not Crown Land. National Parks are reserves of land owned and managed by the Federal Parks Department and development is not allowed on that land whatsoever.

Crown Land is land owned and administered by the provinces. Crown Land can be licenced for many uses and sometimes it can be purchased.

Also, Provincial Parks are not Crown Land.

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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The utterly inefficient and overpriced Canadian telecoms exist only because we allow one specific behavior: 1. A new local player comes to town, builds their own infrastructure (e.g. connects one building to fiber) and starts offering competitive service. 2. Rogers/Shaw/Bell/Telus immediately offer better terms for the residents of that building. 3. The competitor runs out of money and leaves. 4. The telecoms revert…

These observations are very true. A friend was living in a Toronto condo building, and I saw them choose to switch from Beanfield to Bell/Rogers for the same monthly price but higher Internet speeds. They took the bait and now everyone pays the price in the long run. And yes, Bell/Rogers gouges with high prices for houses/apartments that don't have an independent ISP like Beanfield, etc.

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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post #31

People in other countries probably don't understand just how powerful - and depended upon - the big telecoms are here in Canada. They have no presence outside the country - they are so bloated and inefficient they couldn't compete - but they are omnipresent here. There are lots of people who depend on Rogers for home Internet, home phone, mobile phone, TV, and home security, not to mention business services that cons…

Isn't that true in most countries? Is there any place in the world that can claim to have a diverse, competitive Telco market?

Mountain West state, middle of nowhere town. I have the option of choosing between a 1Gb+ fiber provider, a 1Gb fiber provider, a 100Mb fiber provider, multiple wireless line of site providers in the 30Mb range(more targeted to the people outside town but have line of site to the mountain), or T-Mobile home internet in the 30-180Mb. Small towns are super friendly and responsive to the 'work remote' crowd.

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. "Crown Land" in Canada is owned by the provinces. There is no such thing as a "British Crown Corporation." Crown Corporations are a Canadian thing. I lived in Canada for 30 years and now live in the Scotland. CalMac and Scottish Water are not "Crown Corporations," but are nevertheless owned and controlled by the Scottish Ministers. This is contrast to BC Ferries, ICBC, and BC Hydro which are Crown Corporations. I…

I suspect that was a reference to the Hudson's Bay Company. I would have to brush up on my history, but they effectively controlled a huge tract of land pre-Confederation and continued to serve many smaller towns until well into the 20th century. I don't think the Hudson's Bay Company was considered a crown corporation, but they were granted a royal charter.

Yes, HBC has a Royal Charter from King Charles II which granted HBC exclusive economic activity in the lands that drained into Hudson Bay.

HBC lands were surrendered to the British government in 1868 ahead of confederation.

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