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Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by rhabarba »

jhallenworld wrote: post #72
fastaguy88 wrote: post #62

I hate to be that guy, but 'ed' is very unix specific. In the mid-1970's (and apparently as early as the 1960's according to Wikipedia), those of us on TOPS/10, TOPS/20 (and perhaps other DEC systems) were using TECO (which of course became EMACS).

Yeah, also for PDP-8s and PDP-11s, which were very popular at the time. TECO-like editors are interesting to use: Unlike line editors (like ex/ed/edlin, etc.), the edit position can be anywhere, not just at line boundaries. But there is no screen, so you really need a good imagination to keep track of this.. Also, they can edit files larger than can fit in the edit buffer, but not in the way this works on modern edit…

Also, several versions of TECO (like TECOC and the Scintilla-based SciTECO) are still in active development. :-)

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by marcosdumay »

gnubison wrote: post #106
marcosdumay wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, of course, sed is not the stantard... It is still much more usable than ed. At least, it makes it easier to debug your script.

In what way? Ed is interactive so you’d be able to act out your script line by line and check for mistakes, which seems easier to me. If you’re cognizant about the differences between ed and ex, you could even debug with vi.

Hum... I was thinking on the lines of debugging an entire shell script. Sed has way more output options.

For a single edition script (one shell command), yeah, I'd say there is no large difference.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by hackbinary »

cupofpython wrote: post #101
hackbinary wrote: post #100

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Let me simplify and fix this for you. 1) Mute phone 2) Turn off desktop notifications 4) enjoy working in peace 5) check notifications when you like 7) Live a happier and less stressful life.

6) forget to check notifications in a reasonable amount of time and miss important alerts, possibly negatively impacting your career growth.

>> career growth

Sorry, I don't buy in the fetishisation of that and being instantly available.

If someone needs to get in touch with me, then they will.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by linksnapzz »

bluGill wrote: post #112
linksnapzz wrote: post #69

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The printer thing is a teletype. Think of it as a terminal onscreen, but...the text actually gets printed to typewriter paper line by line. The phone thing is almost certainly an acoustic coupler for a 300-baud modem, hooked to the teletype. You'd dial the modem pool for the server you were trying to connect to, and when you heard the happy modem noises come through the handset, you'd slam it down on the two rubber c…

More like 150 baud. I'm not sure if there was protocol negotiations or just a lot of wait back and forth. I actually used such a thing to dial a BBS when my Atari 800xl's modem got hit by lightning. Obsolete then, and slow but I got my fix. Fun times...

Yeah, looking more closely, acoustic couplers predated the Hayes modem by at least a decade. I don't know what the standard was for agreeing on a baud rate for earlier ones.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by cupofpython »

hackbinary wrote: post #123
cupofpython wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

6) forget to check notifications in a reasonable amount of time and miss important alerts, possibly negatively impacting your career growth.

>> career growth Sorry, I don't buy in the fetishisation of that and being instantly available. If someone needs to get in touch with me, then they will.

Here's the fun fact: they don't need you. Someone else will seize the opportunities you miss while being unavailable.

Also, we created a scenario where they literally cannot get in touch with you even if they need you.. are you expecting an emergency carrier pigeon?

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