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Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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https://web.archive.org/web/20140516191215/http://c2.com/cgi... I still lament that the C2 wiki switched to JS rendering.

Aha, is that the reason why I only see a spinning circle? I remember that I still could access it last year.

It tells me that

    This site uses features not available in older browsers.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Perhaps it's better to see for a minute how people used this kind of editors when they first appeared, than to keep reading about them for ages: https://youtu.be/b6URa-PTqfA?t=100 (BBC from '79, mentioning how people start working from home with the aid of newfangled microcomputers and network connectivity). I'm reminded most of all of the fdisk util, where the workflow is pretty much the same: print, modify, print,…

Be sure to continue watch also the rest of the video, amazing spot on prediction for amongst other things working from home.

Sort of wish I could work from home distraction free with a typewriter on my kitchen table though, instead having to be constantly be distracted by slack, zoom, email etc.

'79 seems like a much simpler time.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Perhaps it's better to see for a minute how people used this kind of editors when they first appeared, than to keep reading about them for ages: https://youtu.be/b6URa-PTqfA?t=100 (BBC from '79, mentioning how people start working from home with the aid of newfangled microcomputers and network connectivity). I'm reminded most of all of the fdisk util, where the workflow is pretty much the same: print, modify, print,…

whoa! What did I just see!? Could someone please explain to me how that telephone head set placed next to printer thing contraption works?

I mean, modems and faxes in effect just whistle into the phone line. At some level of proficiency, you might be able to do that yourself ;)

Afaik phone phreaking used a variety of whistling devices of different complexity: from https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/02/phone-phreaks-the-t...

to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Perhaps it's better to see for a minute how people used this kind of editors when they first appeared, than to keep reading about them for ages: https://youtu.be/b6URa-PTqfA?t=100 (BBC from '79, mentioning how people start working from home with the aid of newfangled microcomputers and network connectivity). I'm reminded most of all of the fdisk util, where the workflow is pretty much the same: print, modify, print,…

Be sure to continue watch also the rest of the video, amazing spot on prediction for amongst other things working from home. Sort of wish I could work from home distraction free with a typewriter on my kitchen table though, instead having to be constantly be distracted by slack, zoom, email etc. '79 seems like a much simpler time.

1) Mute phone

2) Turn off desktop notifications

3) Set timer

4) enjoy working in peace

5) timer goes off, check feeds for updates

Repeat Steps 3, 4, 5. for timer length suggestions see: pomodoro

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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For some reason it took me years to understand the need for a line editor. It didn't make any sense in my head. Then one day I saw the famous picture of Bill and Allen as kids in front of a teletype [1] and it finally clicked. The way it worked was like this: As you keyed in your program, letter by letter, it was printed out on the paper immediately like a typewriter. If you ran the program and there was a problem, y…

And now autistic nerds keep using it, which is fine, but then insist that everyone else should learn it too, which is stupid.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Perhaps it's better to see for a minute how people used this kind of editors when they first appeared, than to keep reading about them for ages: https://youtu.be/b6URa-PTqfA?t=100 (BBC from '79, mentioning how people start working from home with the aid of newfangled microcomputers and network connectivity). I'm reminded most of all of the fdisk util, where the workflow is pretty much the same: print, modify, print,…

whoa! What did I just see!? Could someone please explain to me how that telephone head set placed next to printer thing contraption works?

In my high school, we had teletypes akin to these for FORTRAN classes, and actual IBM keypunch machines for COBOL.

Our COBOL programs had to be submitted as a deck of cards wrapped with a rubber band. To ruin someone else's assignment, shuffle their deck and return it to the box.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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I have written several scripts -- some throwaway, some not -- that use ed. If you know what you need to do to edit a file and need it automated, ed is just super handy. Here is a shell script that deletes all comments from a yaml file, then comments out a particular key: ed $file

`diff -e` and `patch -e` produce and consume `ed` commands

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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I was never much of an ed user but I did a lot of stuff in EDLIN on PC DOS 3.1. Ed seems a little more powerful and useful. With 512K of RAM on a 6MHz 80286, using an editor that fit into one "segment" and loaded quickly from a floppy was nice. The original DOS 1.0 edlin was just over 2K. Of course, we had printed manuals back then, and you could learn EDLIN with the manual on your lap while you typed commands.

I tried out programming in DOS using tools of the period, and I found edlin surprisingly easy to use; easier to get into than ed. It did have a few quirks. It uses the ASCII SUB character, ^Z, to separate the fields of a substitution command. That does eliminate escaping issues at least.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aha, is that the reason why I only see a spinning circle? I remember that I still could access it last year.

It tells me that This site uses features not available in older browsers.

I also see this text, and I also don't have an old browser, but apparently older than the one the author uses; surprising that just this site depends on the latest bells and whistles.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be sure to continue watch also the rest of the video, amazing spot on prediction for amongst other things working from home. Sort of wish I could work from home distraction free with a typewriter on my kitchen table though, instead having to be constantly be distracted by slack, zoom, email etc. '79 seems like a much simpler time.

1) Mute phone 2) Turn off desktop notifications 3) Set timer 4) enjoy working in peace 5) timer goes off, check feeds for updates Repeat Steps 3, 4, 5. for timer length suggestions see: pomodoro

Let me simplify and fix this for you.

1) Mute phone

2) Turn off desktop notifications

4) enjoy working in peace

5) check notifications when you like

7) Live a happier and less stressful life.

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