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Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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This news about Abe is definitely a bit shocking, but nowhere near as scary as the indiscriminate killings we keep hearing about from the US. If you're a high profile politician, having a target on your back is basically part of the job description. The fact that "being a US resident" is now on more or less the same level, is a bit scary.

Statistics still matter. The odds of dying in a car accident throughout your life are about 1 in 100. If you take out suicide and gang violence, getting shot randomly is much less likely than dying in a car. Yet I go and drive around for fun some days and don't worry one but about it.

Guns are now the leading cause of death for people under the age of 24 in the US (and have been for several years). Yes, they exceed motor vehicle deaths.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/05/25/guns-are...

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There is a lot of unspoken of politicial struggles that go on in Japan, take this one for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanrizuka_Struggle . It's not just a totally peaceful place as many believe. Also, people are economically in a pretty bad place here, borders are still closed with no sign of opening. It might be a long shot but Abenomics was all about making Japan a "service economy", that relied heavily…

I had never heard of the Sanrizuka Struggle. It feels crazy and sad to learn that the airport I arrived at for my move to Japan was on land to be used without consent of the local residents... And I had absolutely no idea of it. Thank you.

Narita is pretty much why all sizable international airports in Japan since then have either been converted from military bases or built in the sea on artificial islands, because neither involves land appropriation. And Narita still has a farm that wasn't appropriated in the middle of it. https://i.redd.it/zrftut6xrws31.jpg

What's interesting is that flights are actually now relocating back from Narita to Haneda, which was over capacity at the time, but Haneda has since added more capacity.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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This news about Abe is definitely a bit shocking, but nowhere near as scary as the indiscriminate killings we keep hearing about from the US. If you're a high profile politician, having a target on your back is basically part of the job description. The fact that "being a US resident" is now on more or less the same level, is a bit scary.

Statistics still matter. The odds of dying in a car accident throughout your life are about 1 in 100. If you take out suicide and gang violence, getting shot randomly is much less likely than dying in a car. Yet I go and drive around for fun some days and don't worry one but about it.

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Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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> The root cause of gun violence is societal issues, not the guns themselves. Solve those societal issues (hard, and likely almost intractable unfortunately), or gun violence will persist. We have what, near 200 examples of other countries who are able to do better? It's almost like it doesn't require a society with no (vaguely alluded to) issues to prevent many gun crimes and mass shootings, and it's more about bein…

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We could start with "if someone keeps telling people they're going to shoot a bunch of people, they can't buy a gun" and go from there.

Requiring training, background checks (no loopholes), an interview and a license would also be a good idea, though it requires a bit of care in implementation.

There's a few things that are pretty close to harmless to moral gun owners but would reduce the incidence and severity of gun violence.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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A good man? Do people here read anything non-tech related? Shinzo Abe was a world-renown revisionist who tried to turn Japan back into a far-right, ultra-racist country. Look, you guys are super smart with computers, but stop this absolute nonsense. https://jacobin.com/2017/03/abe-nippon-kaigi-japan-far-right

>> Japan back into a far-right, ultra-racist country. I was under the impression from friends who taught English there and other family members who worked there in various positions, this is how the country has always been - exclusionary to outsiders, racist and very intolerant to outsiders. Was there a time (I lost track of the country after the first dot com bust in 2001) that the country wasn't like that? I'm genu…

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Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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I am sorry, but it will stop if guns are banned for ordinary people. How many school shootings happen in China or India? I am taking china and india because they are populous and don't have gun distributed freely like in US. The fact is quantity matters in such cases. Having 1 incidence vs 10 or 20 is a huge difference.

There are hundreds of millions of americans. These mass shooting events are insignifigant in the grand scheme of things. I don't think we should give away our essential freedoms just so we can live in a "safe" country like... China and India?

Surely there are more palatable examples of countries without guns than China and India.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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Pardon me for making an outsider's observation, but it appears to me that in Japan you have either extremely safe and no crime / complete safety and courtesy (most of the time), or 0.1% of the time some guy goes off his rocker and kills many, many people or something like this.

No they don't "kill many people", you do hear about the eventual "knife attack" but the death victims are normally 0-5. In this particular case, which is already an exception because of a handmade gun (apparently) instead of a knife, there's 1 single victim and it's still unknown whether Abe will survive. Edit: as someone living in Japan. Maybe not living here you do only hear about the once in 5-10 years attacks whe…

Yeah, like the guy that went off his rocker half a year back, and burned 30ish people to death in his psychiatric clinic.

Or the other guy that was probably the inspiration for that and burned down the Kyoto animation office (34 deaths).

Not all of them are pretty mild.

To be fair, not a weekly event like in the US either.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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That is a slippery slope to every state having restrictive NY-like gun laws. I don't care about legal or cultural precedent in germany or the EU. This isn't germany. The US plays a far more important role in global affairs, and as such must take more dramatic measures to prevent it from falling into the hands of some regime, those measures include the right to bear arms as well as freedom of speech and freedom of rel…

> must take more dramatic measures to prevent it from falling into the hands of some regime the pen used for voting has more power than a gun to prevent the US from falling into the hands of "some regime".

"The pen is mightier than the sword" is a stupid idea. The pen has no power on its own. A regime will throw out your ballots.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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Would you like to expand your criticism? I see a lot of vague hate for him here and biased links being posted. What exactly is your issue with him? Without using buzzwords like "historic revisionist" or "far-right, ultra-racist". - edit - Mainly people are saying he's racist because he visited Yasukini Shrine that honors the dead from Japan's wars when he resigned to "inform the spirits". It's not like visiting a "Na…

He is, like many other Japanese, hell bent on rewriting Japanese history with a positive spin, completely ignoring or at best downplaying their colonisation atrocities before and during WW2. Wasn't he the one who went to a shrine to a "WW2 hero" who also just happened to be a war criminal? Historic revisionism is an apt description, not a "buzzword".

Yasukuni Shrine isn't only for WW2 criminals, but also for who died on previous wars. As a Japanese, I don't think it's bad to go to the shrine unless denying historical fact or praising criminals. It's uncomfortable that foreign countries blames about that. Maybe WW2 criminals shouldn't be buried at the shrine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasukuni_Shrine

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In the school shootings, at least, there is always some unhinged person behind it. Deeper mental health checks before purchasing a gun (like as is required in Germany) could be very useful. Also, rules in place that your gun is stored securely in a safe, and spot checks to verify such (again, in Germany) can help with guns making their way into other people’s hands either by being given or by being taken. A friend of…

That is a slippery slope to every state having restrictive NY-like gun laws. I don't care about legal or cultural precedent in germany or the EU. This isn't germany. The US plays a far more important role in global affairs, and as such must take more dramatic measures to prevent it from falling into the hands of some regime, those measures include the right to bear arms as well as freedom of speech and freedom of rel…

Lol the fact that random people have guns has nothing to do with US dominance, and it’s not random people with guns that will protect the US in an exceedingly unlikely armed conflict on US soil, it’s the army - which has no shortage of funding. Unless you’re saying that random armed people are going to defend against a coup from our own army - doubtful. Hypothetical “defense” at what cost? Mass shootings every week is worth it?
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