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“ many of these folks won’t be able to sell the shares they earned. The money they need pay bills and keep them afloat if and until they get new employment. When severance ends, that’s it.” It’s Twitter’s responsibility to not only offer severance, but make sure employees keep an emergency fund?

Aren't vested shares in a public company just shares? Once they're no longer employees, they shouldn't be subject to any trading blackout.

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Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

Let's pretend some of these SF twitter employees have families. $4k in rent monthly, 4k in general living expenses (these are based off median figures available publicly) A bit over $96k in living costs. Assuming that $200k in total comp includes about 25% in stock (based off publicly reported comp packages for twitter employees), and a combined state/federal 35% tax rate... They have no spare money to save without a…

It's a sad commentary that when the prospect of someone facing economic hardship comes up, many peoples' first thought is "but did they deserve it?"

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Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

Hoo boy, where to begin with this one. You do realize that there are people who broke into tech despite coming from extremely poor backgrounds, and use most of their take-home money to support their families, right? Or students with massive student loan debts that they are currently paying down? Or even just people from median financial backgrounds but have to support their families in a high CoL area?

That doesn't compute - if you come from a poor background your family is used to surviving with below average income - moving to a high income (>2-3x average) leaves you with enough income to save up emergency fund for 6 months. Source - came from poor background, had to support family earning 3-4x average income.

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If you have money that you won't need to access for a year, I bonds currently pay close to 10%. 10K a year limit on what you can put in.

That’s not an EF or an SA.

They said they were financially illiterate. I read that as them not even knowing what they don't know.

But you do you, bitcoinmoney.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

#165

“ many of these folks won’t be able to sell the shares they earned. The money they need pay bills and keep them afloat if and until they get new employment. When severance ends, that’s it.” It’s Twitter’s responsibility to not only offer severance, but make sure employees keep an emergency fund?

Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

What "high yield savings accounts"??

I dont know of any over 2%

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

Honestly if you’re paying a mortgage at current rates, 6 months income is an excessive amount to hold out. Assuming that’s $100k, you’re paying somewhere around $5600/year by not paying down your mortgage more aggressively. I have a lot of sympathy for someone who’s plan for savings was “if I get fired I can”: (1) use my severance money (2) sell my stock (3) get a loan against my home Only blackout periods blocked (2…

Does the US not have Mortgage Offset Accounts? An offset account is essentially a normal transaction account tied to your mortgage, but every dollar in the account "offsets" the mortgage balance for daily interest calculations. My "emergency fund" is just in one of my offset accounts, so it's saving me on my mortgage interest.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

Hoo boy, where to begin with this one. You do realize that there are people who broke into tech despite coming from extremely poor backgrounds, and use most of their take-home money to support their families, right? Or students with massive student loan debts that they are currently paying down? Or even just people from median financial backgrounds but have to support their families in a high CoL area?

So... I'm not sure what you are implying here. Twitter doesn't need these employees, but should keep them on payroll out of pity ?

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Equity isn’t an emergency fund.

Isn't and Shouldn't are different things. Also, new hires exist. Not everyone has had time to actually accumulate wealth from their compensation. Not everyone was taught financial literacy before being dumped into a high stress job. Not everyone is in good health. I think sympathy and compassion are fine ideals to hold for any of our working class cohort.

"Not everyone was taught financial literacy"

That's not how adulthood works. The world doesn't care if you learned it nor will it teach you. Besides, it doesn't take a course in finance to understand basic financial responsibility.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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post #141

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Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

Honestly if you’re paying a mortgage at current rates, 6 months income is an excessive amount to hold out. Assuming that’s $100k, you’re paying somewhere around $5600/year by not paying down your mortgage more aggressively. I have a lot of sympathy for someone who’s plan for savings was “if I get fired I can”: (1) use my severance money (2) sell my stock (3) get a loan against my home Only blackout periods blocked (2…

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