Ed is the standard text editor (2014) • Hacker News Board

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by cupofpython » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 7:56 PM UTC

hackbinary wrote: post #100

cupofpython wrote: post #94

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1) Mute phone 2) Turn off desktop notifications 3) Set timer 4) enjoy working in peace 5) timer goes off, check feeds for updates Repeat Steps 3, 4, 5. for timer length suggestions see: pomodoro

Let me simplify and fix this for you. 1) Mute phone 2) Turn off desktop notifications 4) enjoy working in peace 5) check notifications when you like 7) Live a happier and less stressful life.

6) forget to check notifications in a reasonable amount of time and miss important alerts, possibly negatively impacting your career growth.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by wrycoder » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 7:59 PM UTC

atorodius wrote: post #82

aasasd wrote: post #59

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Yeah, I'm kinda getting into these vids from the seventies and eighties. “Introducing The Amazing Compact Disc, 1982” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tx6TYnPat8 — “You can pick it up and move around, even shake, and nothing happens”, yeah sure bud. “Introduction to Microsoft Excel, 1992” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOO31qFmi9A “Susan Kare explains Macintosh UI ergonomics on the Computer Chronicles, 1984” https:/…

The Macintosh UI one is gorgeous. Such simple systems. I wished our computers, or maybe just our phones, would be so simple and non-distracting still.

They can be, if you set them up correctly.

Get an iPad, and delete all the app icons, except the couple you use every day, like iMail and Safari. (You can always access them from the Applications folder.)

Turn off all the notifications. Set the desktop background to some non-distracting solid color. Keep your data in folders, don't clutter up the desktop.

Use Pages to write things. Or, maybe just use write.as on the web, and let them handle the fiddly details like backup and web page hosting of your work.

If you have a Linux background and just want something simple (but very capable when you need it), run i3 or Sway on Alpine.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by None4U » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 8:13 PM UTC

vishnugupta wrote: post #65

aasasd wrote: post #27

Perhaps it's better to see for a minute how people used this kind of editors when they first appeared, than to keep reading about them for ages: https://youtu.be/b6URa-PTqfA?t=100 (BBC from '79, mentioning how people start working from home with the aid of newfangled microcomputers and network connectivity). I'm reminded most of all of the fdisk util, where the workflow is pretty much the same: print, modify, print,…

whoa! What did I just see!? Could someone please explain to me how that telephone head set placed next to printer thing contraption works?

The "printer thing" I believe is like a terminal that renders on paper instead of a CRT. The telephone is like SSH.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by evilotto » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 8:41 PM UTC

layer8 wrote: post #28

https://web.archive.org/web/20140516191215/http://c2.com/cgi... I still lament that the C2 wiki switched to JS rendering.

Every link I click on opens up a new frame in the current window. Can't move them around, or focus, or anything. Whatever js rendering it is is either a bizarre design choice, or just plain broken.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by unrznbl » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 8:58 PM UTC

I use ed for pretty much all editing. Have for a few years after I got tired of trying to debug emacs/org mode :) YMMV of course. :) And so I have learned bash/shell better because of it which I am thankful for.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by gnubison » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 9:08 PM UTC

marcosdumay wrote: post #63

gnubison wrote: post #60

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Except for when it breaks on FreeBSD or macOS. The most portable utility nowadays for desktop systems is ex, actually (because some Linux distros don’t include ed).

Well, of course, sed is not the stantard... It is still much more usable than ed. At least, it makes it easier to debug your script.

In what way? Ed is interactive so you’d be able to act out your script line by line and check for mistakes, which seems easier to me. If you’re cognizant about the differences between ed and ex, you could even debug with vi.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by dang » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 10:25 PM UTC

Ed is the standard text editor (1991) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9936980 - July 2015 (3 comments)

Lots more:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by hestefisk » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 11:43 PM UTC

This, alongside BOFH, is worth its weight in gold in terms of humour. I can also recommend reading the jargon file by ESR to really tap 80ies / 90ies hacker culture.

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by Beltalowda » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 11:49 PM UTC

None4U wrote: post #103

vishnugupta wrote: post #65

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whoa! What did I just see!? Could someone please explain to me how that telephone head set placed next to printer thing contraption works?

The "printer thing" I believe is like a terminal that renders on paper instead of a CRT. The telephone is like SSH.

> The telephone is like SSH.

SSH with 7-bit ASCII encryption :-)

Re: Ed is the standard text editor (2014)

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Post by hestefisk » Thu, Jul 07, 2022, 11:49 PM UTC

ogogmad wrote: post #86

fmakunbound wrote: post #30

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> ed .ssh/config I think this is my ed use-case as well. I've noticed I need to "apt-get install ed" sometimes. The standard editor is not always standard, it seems.

Why not use sed?

Because it’s not standard.