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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by throwaway675309 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #346
Darmody wrote: post #294

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> Well yeah that is kind of the philosophy - a single simple way to do things. Not being able to do something is very different from what you're saying. Not being able to do something, in fact, makes it more complicated because you need workarounds. > Cutting down on customisation makes the system more stable and I think allows them to innovate more quickly Nobody is talking about customization. Missing features does…

I've not really encountered not being able to do something I needed to do with my Mac before that I can recall. You don't give many concrete examples of things you're unable to do, so I can't help you figure them out. The file manager is a joke? Well it lets you manage files not sure what else you need. I'd done my whole career doing PhD-level systems research on my Macs - hasn't held me back from doing anything. > D…

Yeah I've literally got Docker desktop running in the background with multiple containers running seamlessly on my M1 max. I think he's just looking for a place to vent.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by pleb_nz »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #713
pleb_nz wrote: post #706

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Lol. I haven't heard someone define mac's and PCs as different like that in a long time. Apple did an amazing job to market it as such and create an us and them division. Imagine Tesla started marketing themselves as 'we're not a car, were a Tesla' Although true, it was some what meant in jest

That may all well be true, but nevertheless, virtually everyone understands and uses the “Mac vs PC” distinction.

Doesn't mean they should never be put right either. Just because something has been called something that it should always be called that. That's seems to be big thing in western society at the moment.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by klodolph »

Darmody wrote: post #143
swozey wrote: post #102

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If you're coming from Windows or another OS it definitely takes time to get used to the "Apple way" of doing things. Also you need to expect that a lot of the applications you're used to being free in other OS cost $10-35+ each on Apple. Apps like SetApp are great for this and trying new applications out but that's a $10 monthly fee. It'd still take me awhile (a year+) to buy the apps I use at $10/mo so I just pay th…

I come from linux and I feel like I've been given a machine for computer illiterate people who are going to do some office work at Starbucks. Stereotypical, yes, but that's how I feel. I need this basic software feature. Yeah? Too bad, the OS won't allow you to do that. Maybe you'll find a paid app that does it. I do pay for software but when you have to pay for basic stuff that should come out of the box, it's a no…

What kind of functionality do you want from your file manager?

I use Linux most of the time, but the file manager on Linux is so bad that I sometimes manage my files from a Mac using SMB or NFS. I've tried a couple different file managers on Linux, and have settled with the default GNOME file manager (formerly Nautilus), but it lags far behind the file managers on both Mac and Windows in terms of both features and basic usability.

At least Mac and Windows file managers are reasonably easy to navigate by keyboard. If you have a directory open and want to select a file, you can just start typing the name. Easy, intuitive, and fast. This feature used to work in GNOME, but not any more. It's been abandoned. The Mac also has the column view, and I don't understand why other operating systems haven't adopted it.

The GNOME file manager also maintains its own "shadow" set of mount points through GNOME's ill-conceived VFS mechanism. So if you want to mount a file share, you can see it in the browser, but you can't look at the files in a terminal window. It's weird and surprising.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by Darmody »

throwaway675309 wrote: post #741
chrisseaton wrote: post #346

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I've not really encountered not being able to do something I needed to do with my Mac before that I can recall. You don't give many concrete examples of things you're unable to do, so I can't help you figure them out. The file manager is a joke? Well it lets you manage files not sure what else you need. I'd done my whole career doing PhD-level systems research on my Macs - hasn't held me back from doing anything. > D…

Yeah I've literally got Docker desktop running in the background with multiple containers running seamlessly on my M1 max. I think he's just looking for a place to vent.

You're saying it like you're the only one running docker.

I use it daily too and it sucks. Containers needs rebooting a few times a day or the changes I make in the code won't work. Then there's the massive ram consumption. Emulated crap.

Sorry if I hurt you feelings.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by sfmike »

travisgriggs wrote: post #668
skohan wrote: post #642

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Keep it. I want one port to rule them all.

Is the returned MagSafe the only way to charge these new macs? Or can you choose to use either MagSafe or usbc? Honestly curious.

mag safe is how to get the 67w, usb c will be slower but possible. This i researched too because wanted a USB-C Exclusive EDC and it looks like thats possible albeit slightly slower charging which is fine if you don't rely on 100% battery dumps then full fast charges to operate.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by realityking »

dudul wrote: post #667
mft_ wrote: post #645

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Totally agree. The new Air to my mind is decent value at $1199. But that then becomes 1499 EUR in Germany, for... some reason. And then you see that the entry level model is specced low, and to get a reasonable 16GB memory and 512GB SSD bumps it up to 1959 EUR, which is a very different level of purchase, and also most of the way to the cost of a comparable 14" M1 MacBook Pro.

"Some reason"? Isn't it pretty obviously taxes?

1199 USD to EUR = 1147 EUR Germany has a 19% VAT so 1147*1.19=1397.06

Still a gap of slightly more than 100€.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by Casteil »

travisgriggs wrote: post #668
skohan wrote: post #642

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Keep it. I want one port to rule them all.

Is the returned MagSafe the only way to charge these new macs? Or can you choose to use either MagSafe or usbc? Honestly curious.

The new 2021 MBPs (14 & 16) as well as the new M2 MBA/MBPs can charge with either Magsafe, OR USB-C.

I've personally charged my 14" off a 100W USB-C, and it does fast charge, faster than the stock 67W adapter.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by Casteil »

sfmike wrote: post #745
travisgriggs wrote: post #668

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Is the returned MagSafe the only way to charge these new macs? Or can you choose to use either MagSafe or usbc? Honestly curious.

mag safe is how to get the 67w, usb c will be slower but possible. This i researched too because wanted a USB-C Exclusive EDC and it looks like thats possible albeit slightly slower charging which is fine if you don't rely on 100% battery dumps then full fast charges to operate.

Wrong. It depends on the USB-C charger/cable; it can and will charge at >67W via USB-C if your wall adapter & cable can handle it.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by Casteil »

ricardobeat wrote: post #646

> A three-mic array captures clean audio using advanced beamforming algorithms Oddly, out of the entire press release, this is the part I have trouble believing. Every MBP launch announces the best microphones ever. When the first MPB 16" came out, it's gazillion-mic array was supposed to be amazing, some reviewers asking "can it replace a professional condenser microphone", yet in reality it's made completely useles…

Fan noise is effectively non existent on the Apple Silicon based Macbooks. I've got a 14" M1 Pro and it's very difficult to tell the fan is even running, and I think the only time I've ever actually seen the fan run above its lowest speed is when I was running an artificial stress test.

Additionally, like another response mentioned.. I've had people remark that I sound "unusually clear" when using my MBP's onboard mic as opposed to my (high quality) headset that I typically use for voice.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by vondro »

watersb wrote: post #498
zitterbewegung wrote: post #427

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When Linus Tech tips did a review and tear down of the last Intel MacBook Air the design had no heat pipe and was just passively cooled. The first MacBook Air with the M1 design was equivalent but with an updated motherboard that had an M1. The A12Z in the DTK is derived from the A12 which came out in 2018 so it probably was earlier than that.

? My M1 MacBook Air is passively cooled, but has a heat pipe that feeds into a heat sink that's at least as large as the M1 system heat spreader. - Detail image: https://valkyrie.cdn.ifixit.com/media/2020/11/19115445/MBA_M... - iFixit Teardown feature article: https://www.ifixit.com/News/46884/m1-macbook-teardowns-somet...

It's just a big piece of copper with decent thermal mass, not heatpipe.
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