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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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And once you spec it up to the 16 / 512 that it minimally needs to be for any serious work, you are close to the (now discounted) price for the base 14 inch macbook pro at third party resellers. This air is currently way overpriced. At the price it was released it should have had 512 gb storage, which also would have avoided the performance issues. It is still going to sell really well though, so maybe the previous m…

For reference, the slower speed seems to be around 1500 MB/s read and write, compared to 3000 MB/s read speeds for the M1 MBP [0]. While there are definitely applications that would benefit from the extra speed, I wouldn't call 1500 MB/s - ~2.5x the speed of the fastest SATA SSDs - a "performance issue." [0] https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/26/base-m2-13-inch-macbook...

Why on earth would you compare it to SATA SSDs?

Common ~$100-150 1 TB M.2 SSDs read 7000 MB/s and write 5000 MB/s.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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> A three-mic array captures clean audio using advanced beamforming algorithms Oddly, out of the entire press release, this is the part I have trouble believing. Every MBP launch announces the best microphones ever. When the first MPB 16" came out, it's gazillion-mic array was supposed to be amazing, some reviewers asking "can it replace a professional condenser microphone", yet in reality it's made completely useles…

I haven't experienced the microphones on the ARM MBP 16", but with its Intel predecessor. And there the microphones are excellent and not drowned by fan noise (assuming of course, you don't run huge compute tasks in the background during the calls, never encountered anyone doing so). I can't imagine the ARM MBP to be more noisy than the Intel one. But specifically: the MB Air doesn't have a fan, so you won't hear fan…

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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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This thing is going to sell like hotcakes. The combination of single core CPU and graphics performance, device thinness, battery life in this laptop is unmatched. It’s funny how Apple came back from the worst the Mac has ever been to the best in a span of few years. Johnny I’ve doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does.

> Johnny Ive doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does. Then how come we never read about those hardware devs, and get only story after story about Ive? My guess: those hardware devs are just faceless pawns that get replaced as soon as they start having opinions about product design.

Ive doesn't even work at Apple anymore.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Honestly the keyboard prevented me from purchasing a MacBook from 2014 until 2020. I still despise the 2020 keyboard but I’ll reluctantly use it to type a password and then plug in a USB keyboard. The 2022 is a dream come true for me.

It was 2016 when things went wrong for the keyboards. I have a 2015 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is fantastic.

True. In my case I didn't need a laptop for 2015/2016, but I'm typically an "every 2 years" kind of person. When 2016 rolled out I knew I was going to be taking care of that 2013 laptop for a long while.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Honestly the keyboard prevented me from purchasing a MacBook from 2014 until 2020. I still despise the 2020 keyboard but I’ll reluctantly use it to type a password and then plug in a USB keyboard. The 2022 is a dream come true for me.

And mag safe made a comeback? And an HDMI port?! The M1 pro was a no-brainer to me when I was in the market for a new laptop.

How in the world do you invent (or at least properly commercialize on a mass scale) a feature like MagSafe and then remove it from your laptops?

Jonny Ive made a lot good decisions in the days when he worked for Jobs, but my theory is that Jobs kept him from being a complete idiot. Tim Cook lost control of him and it went downhill massively after that.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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post #645

I was interested to pick when I saw the price in USD.. Then I realized the starting price in Italy for the 8GB version is 1829 euros, and more than 2100 to get 8 GBs of memory more.

Totally agree. The new Air to my mind is decent value at $1199. But that then becomes 1499 EUR in Germany, for... some reason. And then you see that the entry level model is specced low, and to get a reasonable 16GB memory and 512GB SSD bumps it up to 1959 EUR, which is a very different level of purchase, and also most of the way to the cost of a comparable 14" M1 MacBook Pro.

"Some reason"? Isn't it pretty obviously taxes?

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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post #642

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In addition to all of that, MagSafe is back as well.

Keep it. I want one port to rule them all.

Is the returned MagSafe the only way to charge these new macs? Or can you choose to use either MagSafe or usbc?

Honestly curious.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#670

This thing is going to sell like hotcakes. The combination of single core CPU and graphics performance, device thinness, battery life in this laptop is unmatched. It’s funny how Apple came back from the worst the Mac has ever been to the best in a span of few years. Johnny I’ve doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does.

> Johnny Ive doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does

That's not how Apple works. If they still work remotely like they did back under Jobs the hardware teams are not the guys calling the shots for future product cycles.

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