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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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The best feature in my opinion: no fans!

With my other MacBooks that do have fans, I regularly have to clean them, which is increasingly hard with thinner, more integrated designs. I also have to pay attention where to place the laptop in order to not obstruct air flow.

My M1 MacBook Air not having any fans while still being reasonably powerful is my favorite feature.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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> It's not just inflation, the Euro has been getting crushed as decades of negligence by the ECB show up. the stream of anti ECB drones is frankly ridiculous the price has gone up in pounds as well. Does the ECB controls them too? Prices in Europe are taxes included, in US are before taxes. In Europe you have to add VAT, not only sales taxes, which are much lower in US anyway. Last but not least, custom duties are a…

Compared to the M1 Macbook Air, the M2 Macbook Air has: a £50 premium in the UK vs US. A €200 Euro premium in Ireland (for example) vs US. So, you are right. Apple raised prices. I suspect exchange rates. It is easier to account for unfavorable exchange rates in new products than in raising prices of existing products.

On Apple.co.uk M1 is listed at £999.00 and M2 at £1,249.00 (respectively € 1,168 and € 1,460, not far from the actual prices in Europe)

The same difference exists in European Apple stores (~+25%).

They simply kept lower prices in US in my opinion, but obviously comparing US prices with non-US prices for a US manufacturer it's not going to work in favor of the non-US market.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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I'm sorry if this doesn't add anything to the discussion, but one of MKBHD's latest reviews discusses the differences between the MacBook Pro 13 and this new MacBook Air. The video does a great job of shining a light on all of the tradeoffs between the two devices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSdKnNj7ozk This little device is a beast!

Title "M2 MacBook Pro: Why Does This Exist?" is perfect. This is Apple back in Centra/Performa territory [0]. See also iFixit's "We’re Pretty Sure We Just Tore Down the New M2 MacBook Pro!?" [1] 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Performa 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJEaAINoQPo&t=223s

iFixIt nearly upgraded their M1 Pro to an M2 Pro by replacing its logic board?! The peripherals didn’t work, but I like this direction and hope Apple embraces the concept so people in their self repair program can give old chassis a new life.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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> Which typical Air buyer needs 16gb ram The developer for whom a macbook air brings a huge amount of power? I mean, they aren't low-end when compared to the general laptop market, they're awesome!

You responded to a comment about the "typical Air buyer". A developer is really not the typical Air buyer and more the target audience for a Pro line product even if that specific model is plenty fast.

For what it's worth, I bought my partner an 8gb Air a couple months ago. I had reservations about that amount of memory but she insisted on not spending more money. As far as she's told me she's experienced no performance issues whatsoever as a non-developer (she uses her laptop for video conferencing, email, and web browsing).

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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It really does seem very cult-like with the way Apple wants everyone to change up English for their product specifically...

If you think this is changing up English, you may not be speaking English as a first language? Referring to products as a proper noun is very common. E.g. Ford will tell you "Mustang offers a powerful engine... blah blah blah" not "The Mustang offers..."

https://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/

> Hear the roar of a Mustang as the ground starts to tremble and your legs start to shake. As always, Mustang draws upon its performance roots with features for enhanced handling, high-powered engine options and a classic Mustang design. For 2022, the soul-stirring Mustang Mach 1 and Mach 1 Premium stand at the pinnacle of 5.0L performance. The personally customizable Mach 1 continues its legacy, engineered specifically for quick turns and spirited drives.

Confusingly, they use Mustang both with an article and without.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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> When I'm told to learn to use it "the Apple way" what I understand is, "shut up and get used to it, you have no saying in how your machine or you should work". Well yeah that is kind of the philosophy - a single simple way to do things. Cutting down on customisation makes the system more stable and I think allows them to innovate more quickly. Don't confuse it with lack of power - it's a fully certified UNIX unlike…

> Well yeah that is kind of the philosophy - a single simple way to do things. Not being able to do something is very different from what you're saying. Not being able to do something, in fact, makes it more complicated because you need workarounds. > Cutting down on customisation makes the system more stable and I think allows them to innovate more quickly Nobody is talking about customization. Missing features does…

I've not really encountered not being able to do something I needed to do with my Mac before that I can recall.

You don't give many concrete examples of things you're unable to do, so I can't help you figure them out. The file manager is a joke? Well it lets you manage files not sure what else you need.

I'd done my whole career doing PhD-level systems research on my Macs - hasn't held me back from doing anything.

> Don't confuse lacking a POSIX certification with the lack of power.

Don't confuse POSIX for UNIX!

> It can't even run Docker properly.

What are you missing with Docker? I use Docker all the time. It's fine what's wrong?

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Aren't Macs basically a rounding error for the overall company?

As others have said, it's about 20% of phone revenue but you need a mac to build an iOS app. THey're also selling a whole ecosystem that needs to be cohesive and technically strong. For a while the mac part of the ecosystem wasn't living up to the quality of the phones, IMHO.

I've brought this up before, and someone responded that they'll move iOS app building and compilation into a web service, and they will no longer need to sell general-purpose computers, and the idea haunts me.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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I want it, but I'm not getting it until all the hardware works under Linux. MacOS is great, but someday they will stop updating MacOS for this. I see it as a device with incredible longevity because of the fanless thermals and how it sips energy. I could see myself using it 10 years later. I want to run MacOS or Fedora Silverblue, with Silverblue being my true love. Immutable OS images HAH, downvoted in seconds. Woul…

I'm a current Linux Desktop (plasma) user, who is really tempted by this machine, given my 6 year old thinkpad is showing it's age. I'm not sure I can get used to MacOS's window management, even though the rest of the OS looks great. I'm definitely not a power user on linux (mostly sticking to defaults), but things like not being able to adjust the green button to maximize a window? Ugh.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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post #341

The best feature in my opinion: no fans! With my other MacBooks that do have fans, I regularly have to clean them, which is increasingly hard with thinner, more integrated designs. I also have to pay attention where to place the laptop in order to not obstruct air flow. My M1 MacBook Air not having any fans while still being reasonably powerful is my favorite feature.

The fans of my m1 16" max turn on so rarely that I doubt they will get as dirty as previous Macs. If you're working in an area that is so dirty that you have to clean your fans often, imagine what you're breathing. I'd suggest getting an air filter.

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What annoys me about MKBHD's video is that he complains about an ageing design like it's a bad thing for the general case. I laud any manufacturer that's come up with a time tested design that doesn't change, which is why the IBM Thinkpads of the day were so popular. But in this specific case, MKBHD is right, this is an Apple being lazy about design and probably reusing their existing parts and tooling just to slap o…

I agree with this take. Tools should rarely require style updates. Sometimes you see style updates in hammers for example, but mostly they are gimmicks. A hammer from 89 years ago still hammers or pulls out nails. Some forms may be better for certain jobs (framing hammer, pein hammer, etc), but overall the design does not change very much. When you introduce things like “titanium” and nail holders, etc., it’s mostly…

A Macbook Air is also an accessory and a luxury item, though
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