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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by kitsunesoba »

Darmody wrote: post #143
swozey wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're coming from Windows or another OS it definitely takes time to get used to the "Apple way" of doing things. Also you need to expect that a lot of the applications you're used to being free in other OS cost $10-35+ each on Apple. Apps like SetApp are great for this and trying new applications out but that's a $10 monthly fee. It'd still take me awhile (a year+) to buy the apps I use at $10/mo so I just pay th…

I come from linux and I feel like I've been given a machine for computer illiterate people who are going to do some office work at Starbucks. Stereotypical, yes, but that's how I feel. I need this basic software feature. Yeah? Too bad, the OS won't allow you to do that. Maybe you'll find a paid app that does it. I do pay for software but when you have to pay for basic stuff that should come out of the box, it's a no…

What are your issues with Finder specifically? I use Windows and Linux on a regular basis in addition to macOS and after a few basics (like enabling the path bar and setting the search field to search the current directory), I don’t find it any worse than Windows Explorer, and in fact preferable to something like Nautilus.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by Nursie »

marricks wrote: post #312
Thaxll wrote: post #280

The pricing outside the US is outrageous though. Those are very expensive laptops. €1520 for the base version with only 8GB lol

Which typical Air buyer needs 16gb ram, the college student with 50 tabs open and Spotify in the background? People complaining about low ram sound like the bros asking how many cylinders a car has. Doesn't matter for most people. Just complain about price, yeah, it is expensive! --- This is coming from someone who does light gaming on an 8gb m1 MacBook Air and has plenty of tabs open. I don't see lag. Then again, I…

> Which typical Air buyer needs 16gb ram

The developer for whom a macbook air brings a huge amount of power?

I mean, they aren't low-end when compared to the general laptop market, they're awesome!

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by adrianmsmith »

cplusplusfellow wrote: post #244
carlycue wrote: post #39

This thing is going to sell like hotcakes. The combination of single core CPU and graphics performance, device thinness, battery life in this laptop is unmatched. It’s funny how Apple came back from the worst the Mac has ever been to the best in a span of few years. Johnny I’ve doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does.

Honestly the keyboard prevented me from purchasing a MacBook from 2014 until 2020. I still despise the 2020 keyboard but I’ll reluctantly use it to type a password and then plug in a USB keyboard. The 2022 is a dream come true for me.

It was 2016 when things went wrong for the keyboards. I have a 2015 MacBook Pro and the keyboard is fantastic.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by ratww »

commandersaki wrote: post #291
chrisjc wrote: post #253

I'm sorry if this doesn't add anything to the discussion, but one of MKBHD's latest reviews discusses the differences between the MacBook Pro 13 and this new MacBook Air. The video does a great job of shining a light on all of the tradeoffs between the two devices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSdKnNj7ozk This little device is a beast!

What annoys me about MKBHD's video is that he complains about an ageing design like it's a bad thing for the general case. I laud any manufacturer that's come up with a time tested design that doesn't change, which is why the IBM Thinkpads of the day were so popular. But in this specific case, MKBHD is right, this is an Apple being lazy about design and probably reusing their existing parts and tooling just to slap o…

> What annoys me about MKBHD's video is that he complains about an ageing design like it's a bad thing for the general case.

That's unfair. He does "complain" but praises Apple for sticking with it immediately afterwards, saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it". It is obvious he's playing two characters presenting different arguments.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

DoughnutHole wrote: post #225
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not just inflation, the Euro has been getting crushed as decades of negligence by the ECB show up. the stream of anti ECB drones is frankly ridiculous the price has gone up in pounds as well. Does the ECB controls them too? Prices in Europe are taxes included, in US are before taxes. In Europe you have to add VAT, not only sales taxes, which are much lower in US anyway. Last but not least, custom duties are a…

He might be being hyperbolic, but the euro is definitely not doing too hot right now - it's gone from $1.18 to the euro a year ago to $1.02. The Air in the UK is £1,249, up from £999 - a 25% increase. The EU price is €1,500, up from €1,050 - a 43% increase. At least some of that has to be explained by the euro dropping ~14% against the dollar. Take away 14% from the EU price and you get €1,290 - pretty close to the U…

> The Air in the UK is £1,249, up from £999 - a 25% increase.

> The EU price is €1,500, up from €1,050 - a 43% increase.

where did you get these prices?

From Apple store Italy

  M1
  8 core CPU
  7 Core GPU
  8GB RAM
  € 1.229,00

  ---

  M2
  8 core CPU
  8 Core GPU
  8GB RAM
  € 1.529,00
€ 1.529 from € 1.229 it's a ~25% increase

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by butterisgood »

pavlov wrote: post #148
bluedino wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the worst the Mac has ever been Which one was that?

The 2016 MacBook Pro was a turd. The butterfly keyboard would inevitably break. I went through several of these laptops. To add insult to the injury, this model's unique innovations were "Touch Bar" and "no ports"... I've been buying Macs since 2000, and the 2016 MBP is definitely the worst Mac I ever had. It was enough to drive me to purchase a Surface Book as an alternative.

Hmm I did exactly the same thing. Apple refreshed my whole laptop after a keyboard break, and I have the Surface to my wife. I think we are both going to get these M2 MBAs next.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by weberer »

apexalpha wrote: post #272

€1520 in Europe for 256gb ssd and 8gb ram... The 512/16 version is almost €2000. Man this is just insane pricing. It sucks because besides ssd/ram everything is fantastic for a laptop. I would buy it almost instantly for $1000

Inflation is crazy right now, so expect it to only go up.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by dewey »

Nursie wrote: post #322
marricks wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which typical Air buyer needs 16gb ram, the college student with 50 tabs open and Spotify in the background? People complaining about low ram sound like the bros asking how many cylinders a car has. Doesn't matter for most people. Just complain about price, yeah, it is expensive! --- This is coming from someone who does light gaming on an 8gb m1 MacBook Air and has plenty of tabs open. I don't see lag. Then again, I…

> Which typical Air buyer needs 16gb ram The developer for whom a macbook air brings a huge amount of power? I mean, they aren't low-end when compared to the general laptop market, they're awesome!

You responded to a comment about the "typical Air buyer". A developer is really not the typical Air buyer and more the target audience for a Pro line product even if that specific model is plenty fast.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by em500 »

andriesm wrote: post #105

In promotional materials they often show pictures of the laptops without the notch. If the notch is such an obvious eye-sore, why aren't they abondoning it?

Even weirder is that according to the rumor mill the notch is already on it's way out in the iPhone, to be replaced with a pill shaped cutout this year, and under-screen cameras in a few years.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by balfirevic »

z9znz wrote: post #254
balfirevic wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the difference in keyboards?

This image illustrates the differences: https://appuals.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/1-11.jpg The difference is that one keyboard is made for humans who touch type, and the other keyboard is made for people who like to lift up their hand and move it every time they want to hit return... or left shift. The ones with the shorter left shift and narrower/taller return key are just bad designs. They make keys you use fr…

That's interesting, the one I'm typing on right now seems to be a hybrid, longer left shift (which is indeed better) but tall enter (which I like because I like to just smack it from time to time).
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