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Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by YurgenJurgensen » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 11:56 AM UTC

codebolt wrote: post #80

abigail95 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Negotiating different rates with different subscribers for the same video price discrimination is good! For the rest of it, banning porn is probably a losing battle, but surely we can make fraud illegal, like passing yourself off as someone else. For the rest of the what-ifs, do nothing, or call the police. I don't think pornographers should have a special duty to act over a shopkeeper or bus driver.

A lot can change over a decades time. I hope and believe that porn will eventually be a lot more restricted than it is today, as the societal downsides become more and more apparent.

Define ‘porn’. Are we banning romance novels and YouTube ASMR streams here?

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by elil17 » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:01 PM UTC

e63f67dd-065b wrote: post #83

ivraatiems wrote: post #23

I have a lot of trouble begrudging anybody anything in this, even though I don't like it. The models who own the pages can't possibly give everyone in their subscriber base what they want. The subscribers are looking for a product, and they're getting it. The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship, and expecting a random w…

I don’t think 70% is unreasonably high for a fully-featured agency doing everything from marketing, management, etc. The value-add in this industry is not the model - there are plenty of beautiful women willing to take nudes in the world. The hard part is actually finding and extracting money from paying customers - cross-promoting with other models, spamming a million posts on every nsfw subreddit, having a human ca…

It seems like the chatters, not the models, who aren’t getting a fair cut.

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by honkdaddy » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:07 PM UTC

gumby wrote: post #29

> Many are based in Miami. It’s a place where young marketing types have embraced a vision of what the internet is actually for that is at odds with Silicon Valley’s: less a utopian escape from reality than an infinite expansion of its strip malls. I am glad there is a honeypot for people like this so they won't move here (SV or even SF)

My friend’s Uber was held up for $10k+ worth of stuff in broad daylight 5 minutes from SFO yesterday. The cops never even showed up.

Whatever people could be coming in from Miami can’t be any worse than the people presently robbing and defecating SV into an early grave.

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by rsynnott » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:10 PM UTC

capableweb wrote: post #118

rsynnott wrote: post #89

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Simply submit the relevant evidence, and in two to four weeks, you receive a 15 page report, stamped by the Inspector of Dicks. I mean, that's how I'm imagining it.

I know you're only commenting in jest, but in case other people are curious: The replies she commonly give people are more like "That's a pathetic cock, I'd never want anything to do with it and I'm sure others hate it too 2/10" or "Wow, what a grandiose dick, a master among plebs, 9/10", and anything in-between, depending on what it seems like the person wants to hear. The times we've talked about it, it seems most…

So what you're saying is, I've found an unexploited market segment?

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:10 PM UTC

rawbot wrote: post #73

ivraatiems wrote: post #23

I have a lot of trouble begrudging anybody anything in this, even though I don't like it. The models who own the pages can't possibly give everyone in their subscriber base what they want. The subscribers are looking for a product, and they're getting it. The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship, and expecting a random w…

> The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here Oh, but there is plenty of platonic relationships with camgirls, streamers and such. It can reach levels of delusion that you wouldn't believe.

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Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by rawbot » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:13 PM UTC

llampx wrote: post #105

rawbot wrote: post #73

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> The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here Oh, but there is plenty of platonic relationships with camgirls, streamers and such. It can reach levels of delusion that you wouldn't believe.

For the models it is still only a business relationship, except in very rare cases. By the same token, prostitution can also be a meaningful personal relationship, as shown in the movie Pretty Woman.

As your sibling commented mentioned, even if they attempt to treat it as a business relationship, not all people can handle it. The mental toll of receiving affection and then basically fake reciprocating it is hard, and not everybody can take it.

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by pc86 » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:21 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #23

I have a lot of trouble begrudging anybody anything in this, even though I don't like it. The models who own the pages can't possibly give everyone in their subscriber base what they want. The subscribers are looking for a product, and they're getting it. The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship, and expecting a random w…

Negotiating different rates for a product is just price discrimination (with negotiation added in). There's nothing remotely unethical about that.

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by sofixa » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:36 PM UTC

asdff wrote: post #53

Screw paying a cut to the chatters or even the models for that matter. This entire business model can be automated with a chatbot and a deepfake engine.

I see you haven't used any chatbots. They are generally useless.

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by sixQuarks » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:36 PM UTC

thorum wrote: post #20

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #4

These “pimps” serve as surrogates for the cammer, (consensually) impersonating them so that the cammer’s account can engage with more subscribers. I wonder how convincing something like GPT-3 would be at this. I give it 5 years tops for 100% AI OnlyFans accounts to be commonplace, complete with artificial personalized livestreams.

The problem with GPT-3 is it’s too agreeable. It will agree to anything and promise anything - which is not a good idea in this context, to put it mildly.

Poster said 5 years, not now

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by samhw » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 12:41 PM UTC

shapefrog wrote: post #112

llampx wrote: post #105

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For the models it is still only a business relationship, except in very rare cases. By the same token, prostitution can also be a meaningful personal relationship, as shown in the movie Pretty Woman.

as shown in the documentary Pretty Woman

I mean, a friend of mine was an escort, and certainly ended up in entanglements like that. At the end of the day you are two human beings. Whatever your professional situation, these things are inexorable.