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Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by consumer451 »

swarnie wrote: post #64
gumby wrote: post #29

> Many are based in Miami. It’s a place where young marketing types have embraced a vision of what the internet is actually for that is at odds with Silicon Valley’s: less a utopian escape from reality than an infinite expansion of its strip malls. I am glad there is a honeypot for people like this so they won't move here (SV or even SF)

SF is the city with its own app for tracking human shit on the sidewalk right? How would these people make it worse.

Feces is harder to track when it is ambulatory.

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Post by timeon »

JohnBooty wrote: post #7

This definitely happens elsewhere, like live cam sites. This isn't a new practice, but the stakes are higher. It used to be that you could write to "celebrities" for an autograph. You hoped it was the celebrity who signed your thing and mailed it back, but in reality you knew it was probably their spouse or secretary. It wasn't honest, but it's not like they charged you money, and the emotional stakes were lower. The…

This reminds me that there are several housing estates around the world 'designed by Zaha Hadid' while she was probably hardly involved.

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Post by framapotari »

bluescrn wrote: post #91
krageon wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly the poster thinks they do know what is best, it's just that it's founded on more than paternalistic views: They seem to equate sex work with gambling, which tastes fundamentally puritan.

They can both seem like easy money. For most people they aren't. And there's a very real risk of long-term negative consequences.

A ton of things seem like easy money but aren't for most people. Many of those have a risk of long-term negative consequences. You just described a large part of life.

What makes sex work special compared to say, pilots, police, electricians, miners, fishermen, divers, construction workers and many many others who also need to balance their choice against a very real risk of long-term negative consequences?

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Post by maxerickson »

aqme28 wrote: post #86
Timshel wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>and expecting a random woman to shower you with attention for $50 a pop videos seems unrealistic. So then what it's ok to take advantage and scam them ??? WTF ...

What scam? These are all upfront deals. Content is actually delivered.

"impersonating the women in conversations with their subscribers"

Is the idea that since the subscribers should know that it isn't the model that it doesn't matter that it isn't the model?

Re: The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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Post by llampx »

rawbot wrote: post #73
ivraatiems wrote: post #23

I have a lot of trouble begrudging anybody anything in this, even though I don't like it. The models who own the pages can't possibly give everyone in their subscriber base what they want. The subscribers are looking for a product, and they're getting it. The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship, and expecting a random w…

> The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here Oh, but there is plenty of platonic relationships with camgirls, streamers and such. It can reach levels of delusion that you wouldn't believe.

For the models it is still only a business relationship, except in very rare cases. By the same token, prostitution can also be a meaningful personal relationship, as shown in the movie Pretty Woman.

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Post by thematrixturtle »

sp1rit wrote: post #74

> "You see how there’s a space before the exclamation mark?" he said. "Yeah, that’s how 18-year-olds type." I have never seen any 18-year-old type like this. Is this actually common in the US or just a thing of older folk imaging how an 18 -year-old might type?

It's common in France ? where it's proper style to leave a space before the final punctuation mark !

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Post by ratww »

rawbot wrote: post #73
ivraatiems wrote: post #23

I have a lot of trouble begrudging anybody anything in this, even though I don't like it. The models who own the pages can't possibly give everyone in their subscriber base what they want. The subscribers are looking for a product, and they're getting it. The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship, and expecting a random w…

> The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here Oh, but there is plenty of platonic relationships with camgirls, streamers and such. It can reach levels of delusion that you wouldn't believe.

I don't know anyone on OnlyFans, but I know a few women who do "Just Chatting" Twitch streams and the psychological toll on them is huge. Having to give people constant attention, answer every question or at least acknowledge it, and provide a sort of faux-friendship in exchange for money is a really strange arrangement. Just yesterday a long-term supporter of one woman I know "confessed their love" to her, and will probably unsubscribe because she won't reciprocate.

Another interesting but sad fact is that a lot of those streamers have significant others, but they hide it from the audience because they believe they'll get more engagement.

Sure the same thing might happen in regular businesses, but the interactions are either shorter (eg cashier) or at least it's acknowledged as being entirely professional.

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Post by odessacubbage »

trentgreene wrote: post #61
otterley wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you haven’t lived in either place, it’s difficult to understand. Capitalism abounds in both, but is expressed in very different ways in each place. The cultures are just wildly different. As a native Californian, I find Florida’s culture to be smarmy and tasteless, with people shamelessly flaunting designer labels and consuming conspicuously. Being seen is super important to a lot of Floridians. (It also goes a lo…

I’m from neither FL or CA, but have lived (for 5 years+) in both S Florida, SV / SF, and a brief stint in LA. The cultures from all these places felt like two sides of the same coin. Compared to my native slice of fly over America, the flaunting and virtue signaling were pretty overwhelming

flaunting and virtue signaling exist here in flyover, sometimes it's a different set of virtues but they are definitely flaunted.

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Post by Jataman606 »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #78

I've noticed that there is a huge amount of these models, including many Russians, offering "dick ratings". I always felt it likely at least some of these are managed by FSB as a way to gain blackmail material on western citizens. I have no evidence that's the case, except that it would be extremely doable and probably very effective.

There are more efficient ways to get blackmail material, especially that FSB doesn't care about random citizens. Also if, for some specific reason, they would need to blackmail specific random citizen, they probably would use more mundane ways (like threatening that they will throw you to jail).

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Post by davidro80 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #23

I have a lot of trouble begrudging anybody anything in this, even though I don't like it. The models who own the pages can't possibly give everyone in their subscriber base what they want. The subscribers are looking for a product, and they're getting it. The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship, and expecting a random w…

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