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Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by mike_hearn »

pizza234 wrote: post #41
chrisseaton wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in full service Have you been there? It’s a bit of a weird ghost-town. Definitely not quite in ‘full service.’

I've been there a short time ago, and had an approximately 30 minutes of security queue, so I wouldn't classify it as ghost town :)

What surprised me, given it's meant to be a shopping heaven, is how few food shops there are. At BER to get food we had to queue for a long time because every single food shop (there were only ~4-~5) had giant queues and there were nowhere near enough seats. Large areas remained panelled off. It seems like they struggled to get enough shops. The food places that did exist were real basic e.g. one was a currywurst shop.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by dzhiurgis »

oneoff786 wrote: post #285
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #237

Airports make 2/3rds of their money by renting space to shops, and the remaining third by allowing planes to fly. They have a strong incentive to be inefficient, so you will feel you need to arrive 2 hours before departure, or even more, because you don't want to risk losing your flight. I flew ~1,000 times, and saw ~300 airports. I could write tens of books on how to make airports better... But the problem is that t…

Seems dubious. I would expect doubling the amount of throughput would bring more shop revenue than doubling the waiting time of people in the airport. I can only buy so many slices of pizza.

Yes but you can load up on booze, perfume, chocolate, iPads, noise cancelling headphones and tons of other stuff.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by froh »

AlexAffe wrote: post #24

Can we take a moment and ponder over why the title is censored? Why are we all okay with this? Who are we protecting, who are we trying to deceive? Why is it fine with everyone, that a youtube SNL skit is bleeped out? What THE FUCK has gotten into us? Either use the word, or don't use it. Show the video, or don't show it. We should all stand tall for our (fought for) rights, this isn't the fucking 60s.

Hehe

When our German dot com success company was acquired by a us "enterprise", we got a few 'mericans over. After his first team meeting this young US citizen is dead embarrassed: "they are using the eff word! In meetings! All the time!" To which we suggested: welcome to Germany...

I never got around this language purity cult. You can lie whatever you like, and incite hate and what have you, but "beware your choice of words".

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by chrisseaton »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #292
oneoff786 wrote: post #285

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Seems dubious. I would expect doubling the amount of throughput would bring more shop revenue than doubling the waiting time of people in the airport. I can only buy so many slices of pizza.

Yes but you can load up on booze, perfume, chocolate, iPads, noise cancelling headphones and tons of other stuff.

Who's got the luggage space to buy these big items at the airport?

They're not even cheaper than normal shops - more expensive than Amazon. What's the point?

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by Glawen »

f_allwein wrote: post #251
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #237

Airports make 2/3rds of their money by renting space to shops, and the remaining third by allowing planes to fly. They have a strong incentive to be inefficient, so you will feel you need to arrive 2 hours before departure, or even more, because you don't want to risk losing your flight. I flew ~1,000 times, and saw ~300 airports. I could write tens of books on how to make airports better... But the problem is that t…

an interesting exception is Munich airport, which was originally designed to minimise the distance passengers have to take to reach their plane. Well visible here: https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/assets/news_articles/... Say you arrive by taxi, you would go down the street in the middle, drop off at one of the four check-in areas (the triangular structures), then make your way through check-in and security and…

I went only there once, but I remember walking several kilometres because check-in was on one side, and my flight the opposite end.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by Glawen »

bettysdiagnose wrote: post #245
durnygbur wrote: post #17

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> close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled You mean which Berlin's airport? As Berlin-native for few years I used the Schönefeld numerous times... and the staff there was some mixture of rude primitive sadists. Behaving towards passengers as if they're taking revenge for something. I just want to fly out of here, you cunt.

That's just German people. If they don't know you, and they're old, and they see an excuse to harass you, they'll probably go for it.

Haha so true

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

chrisseaton wrote: post #294
dzhiurgis wrote: post #292

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Yes but you can load up on booze, perfume, chocolate, iPads, noise cancelling headphones and tons of other stuff.

Who's got the luggage space to buy these big items at the airport? They're not even cheaper than normal shops - more expensive than Amazon. What's the point?

I agree with you — I've never bought anything other than food at an airport — but the shops wouldn't be there if they didn't make money.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by oneoff786 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #294
dzhiurgis wrote: post #292

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Yes but you can load up on booze, perfume, chocolate, iPads, noise cancelling headphones and tons of other stuff.

Who's got the luggage space to buy these big items at the airport? They're not even cheaper than normal shops - more expensive than Amazon. What's the point?

Last minute souvenirs

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by jhugo »

aldebran wrote: post #288
jhugo wrote: post #252

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I did initially assume that, but then it doesn't make any sense at all. Lufthansa doesn't fly between the US West Coast and Asia except via Europe, and a large number of other airlines offer direct routes between the US West Coast and Asia which are obviously going to be substantially shorter. So... maybe they mean the west coast of some other country?

This is exactly it. I fly to India. SEA to FRA to India is the general route. Lufthansa has the shortest flight times including the layover in Frankfurt. Every other airline takes at least a couple of hours more. Some take 4+ hours longer.

This seems impossible. Frankfurt is nowhere near the great circle route (shortest path) between Seattle and India, and Qatar flies directly from Seattle to Doha, which is near the route, and which itself has frequent direct flights to many airports in India.

And indeed, a quick flight search shows that Qatar's total flight times from Seattle to major Indian airports are all at least 2 hours shorter than Lufthansa's.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by CPLX »

te_chris wrote: post #253
f_allwein wrote: post #251

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an interesting exception is Munich airport, which was originally designed to minimise the distance passengers have to take to reach their plane. Well visible here: https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/assets/news_articles/... Say you arrive by taxi, you would go down the street in the middle, drop off at one of the four check-in areas (the triangular structures), then make your way through check-in and security and…

In my experience all German airports are terrible, particularly Munich and BER.

In my experience living in the most important city in the world the Berlin and Munich airports are a marvel of efficiency and comfort that I would kill to have back home.
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