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> You can use a standard subway ticket almost. the airport is one stop into zone C, and a “standard” ticket would only be valid in zones A and B. you need either an ABC ticket or a standard ticket + extension ticket.
How often do the ticket inspectors come in right after the airport stop? If it's relatively rare, you theoretically could ride that one stop without a ticket (but of course that would be totally illegal, do not do it).
How to fuck up an airport
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Re: How to fuck up an airport
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> You can use a standard subway ticket almost. the airport is one stop into zone C, and a “standard” ticket would only be valid in zones A and B. you need either an ABC ticket or a standard ticket + extension ticket.
How often do the ticket inspectors come in right after the airport stop? If it's relatively rare, you theoretically could ride that one stop without a ticket (but of course that would be totally illegal, do not do it).
Re: How to fuck up an airport
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If you listen to the podcast they explain that it wasn't his fault. Spoilers: he designed BER for fast passenger transit, just like Tegel, but the airport authorities wanted more shopping space. So they crammed as many shops as they could in detriment of the passenger experience. And then there's the situation with the rise of low-cost airlines who weren't allowed to use the jetway... I definitely recommend listening…
This glosses over some stuff that is definitely his fault. The first issue that caused the issues, the fire system, was designed to suck air underground, because the architect did not want a fire system to obstruct his roof, never mind that smoke and hot air naturally rise. https://www.thegermanreview.de/p/the-real-story-behind-berli...
If you hire a design team to create a car with a massive hole where the engine and wheels should be, because it is more "clean", and then neglect to hire an engineer to check their work is feasible, is it on the design team or on you being incompetent?
You can say all you want "hot air naturally rises", true, but I doubt an architect has the training to be a safety engineer, and before you say "oh well that's obvious", consider that heavy objects naturally fall to the earth, and yet we have airplanes.
They had a design which would work, but nobody in charge actually did the legwork of bothering to check if it was feasible or not, and/or bungled it so badly even if it were feasible it was like attaching a helicopter to an airplane and then wondering why it didn't fly...
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#235Frankfurt airport is marginally better. Flights stop in the middle of the runway. Take a bus. Buses are late. Walk for what feels like eternity. No regard for accessibility. I’ve met multiple senior citizens frail, waiting for their wheel chairs and worried that they’re going to miss their connecting flights. As good as German engineering is, the airport infra is equally worse. It’s a shame. I like flying lufthansa.…
> I like flying lufthansa. They have the shortest flight times to Asia from the west coast. Can you elaborate on this? Where do you mean by "west coast"?
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#236I don't care about ascetics much at an airport except decorating around functionality. Around 2005, the newer Shanghai airport had information boards that didn't contain information except various permutations of Windows' BSODs. IIRC, it was that terrible, inefficient design of long and narrow. In general, DFW is a better layout: almost circles of gates globbed almost contiguous to each other as lettered terminals re…
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#237I flew ~1,000 times, and saw ~300 airports. I could write tens of books on how to make airports better... But the problem is that the incentives are such that this is not the way to go. Airports want to make money by selling you stuff. Period. They don't care about giving you a great experience.
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#238The new LGA terminal is probably a lesson in how not to fuck up an airport. It's beautiful. You'll notice design decisions that take into consideration the post 9/11 security setup: lots of security lines and automation to help move you along. It dawns on you that every airport in USA had to retrofit today's security setup in a space that previously never had it or is too small to create a good people flow.
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Seemingly all of them across Europe done that. There are talks to hire experienced people from Turkey to help with the workers shortage. My guess, most people saw the airport job as a jumping board and just needed a push to quit and never come back.
Importing Turkish workers to handle Schiphol is going to cause a clusterfuck in Dutch politics through the islamophobes. The Turks were the biggest initial group of immigrants that caused backlash here.
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#240Oh this is an article about how someone else screwed up an airport? I was hoping to learn how to mess them up myself :(
Pull a fire alarm. Sneak through security or run past the TSA agent falling asleep near the exit of the secured area. Try to open one of those secured doors marked "alarm will sound". There's lots of ways. Note: This is not actual advice. Not responsible for any resulting fines or prison sentences.