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Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

As a musician and filmmaker I see it like this: once my work is published I stop to be in total control of it. That means I cannot control (or sometimes even know) what paths my works will take, how it is being understood, who will do what with it etc.

Of course I like to be credited for my work — but some fan adding my work to a pirate page would not be a concern but rather a bit flattering. What would anger me would be someone claiming credit for themselves, some rich company taking the material without paying me, things of that sort.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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I foresee storage density reaching the point that for most ordinary people "online" becomes rather unimportant. What would be the effects of technology when computers behave as in early science fiction, as stand-alone oracles? [1] [1] https://www.timeshighereducation.com/opinion/2048-informatio...

How would the appeal of streamers and live data/content settle out in that case? Sometimes context is available in the moment that makes it easier for all parties to consume and analyze in that moment as well. Since transient, ethereal meme culture is also basically emergent culture now, it's difficult not to also foresee a greater cultural divide in such a case. This is saying nothing of live data tools as well, eve…

> How would the appeal of streamers and live data/content settle out in that case?

It would be mostly unaffected. As another commenter (Michael) says, communication, news and collaboration are distinct from storage as needs/functions.

What you say here is fascinating:

> Since transient, ethereal meme culture is also basically emergent culture now, it's difficult not to also foresee a greater cultural divide in such a case.

There have always been bookish or gossipy people. Jane Austen and Thomas Hardy both make note of that in stories about English culture. The balance of those qualities may have changed in the internet age. Perhaps the degree of reach via one-to-many communications has amplified the ephemeral gossip side. The scholarly life less so. Though it's enhanced by repositories like Gutenberg, Internet Archive and SciHub and the like, a "reader" (to use Bill Hicks's take) can still only process one media at a time. But as Ted Nelson pointed out, if you have all of the worlds writing at your fingertips, all hyperlinked and with awesome semantic search tools, reading becomes a quite different non-linear experience. That's something centralised walled gardens subtracted from the WWW as its 1990s conceit.

That 90's vision of a multi-modal, multi-media "internet community" in which people read common news, converse and reference together hasn't really survived "Social Media". But then it was always a weal approximation to something like a group seminar in the university library rather than the town square or local pub.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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There should be a fine line in intellectual property rights. I see where you are coming from - quite often intellectual property is used a a moat to protect insane revenues and, as a repercussion, delay or slowdown our progress as humanity. But it is also use to protect unique creator revenue and encourage to create more. If you ask where the fine line should be I have no immediate answer, but abolishing intellectual…

> But it is also use to protect unique creator revenue and encourage to create more. This thinking is an artifact of an economic system so dependent on scarcity for its motivation that it is now generating most of the scarcity in the world. We now have the technology for creative implementations of "From each according to its ability, to each according to its needs". Just keep track of how much each thing is used, an…

Even just having substantial "prizes" for the most widely used stuff (whether publicly or privately funded) would go a long way. (Most of our public funding for content creation now happens as grants, basically rewarding compelling ideas and then simply trusting that the reward money will be spent on doing worthwhile things. This does not work very well, for obvious reasons.)

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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is there actually a command line tool which can bulkdownload according to filters from libgen/mirrors? i do not care about speed, rate limiting would be totally okay, but i do not see such tools, which iteratively go over each mirror and check for content in a service friendly way

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

#236
post #185

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That's already the case minus the last ~70 years or so. The overwhelming majority of our knowledge is in the public domain, in particular cultural artifacts. It's a nice sentiment but like, people can already go to gutenberg.org and download pretty much most important works of literature in existence and most books have like 5k downloads so there's that.

Hasn't been more knowledge published in the last 70 years than during all the times before? More than 2 million new books get published every year.

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Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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post #124

Again, it's just insane to me that we don't even much have a meaningful discussion of: "Hey, wait, literally everyone could have the entire library of Alexandria in their house for a couple hundred bucks per person. Like, all the knowledge ever. Maybe that should be considered the good default of things. At least one in every town that everyone could use, for free, forever, without restriction to ANY of the knowledge…

That's already the case minus the last ~70 years or so. The overwhelming majority of our knowledge is in the public domain, in particular cultural artifacts. It's a nice sentiment but like, people can already go to gutenberg.org and download pretty much most important works of literature in existence and most books have like 5k downloads so there's that.

In a lot of countries it's life plus 70 years. If it was only 70 years, we'd already have everything from 1951 and earlier. However, we have to wait for the authors to die before we even start counting, and good luck if it's somebody obscure and you can't find their date of death.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

#238
post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

>Should I be disallowed to commercialise it?

No one said anything about disallowing you from doing anything.

>my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back.

Is it wise to sink your time into something you don't really like doing?

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

If you as a private person own a patent, you are losing it anyways...because you cannot fight some mega corporation in court to defend it. It's too expensive, and the biggest corps just take what they want due to having more financial resources. Note that if you don't defend it in court, our justice system thinks it is less valueable to protect. Which in itself is kind of ridiculous. Also, right to commercialization…

> If you as a private person own a patent, you are losing it anyways

There's always someone who just has to spread the despair and helplessness. Every bloody time. Tell me, in what way does this add to the discussion? I wish there was a ban on these kind of comments.

> right to commercialization has nothing to do with intellectual property.

I don't understand. If I don't own it I can't market it, right?

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Here are 2x 16tb drives for ~$900 AUD ($600 USD), RAID them. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/710309 Put it in a case with all parts, $800USD all up?

The guy asked a question then edited his comment

I didn't edit it much...
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