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Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by kabdib »

ginko wrote: post #47
franze wrote: post #26

I just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.

>They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput. Continuous integration?

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Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by rocqua »

number6 wrote: post #9
somishere wrote: post #6

I have another method. Let everyone go during covid and then attempt to re-hire them all on less generous terms after the fact. Looking at you DUB (and no doubt many others).

Seemingly all of them across Europe done that. There are talks to hire experienced people from Turkey to help with the workers shortage. My guess, most people saw the airport job as a jumping board and just needed a push to quit and never come back.

Importing Turkish workers to handle Schiphol is going to cause a clusterfuck in Dutch politics through the islamophobes. The Turks were the biggest initial group of immigrants that caused backlash here.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by lotsofpulp »

biztos wrote: post #115

Arguably off topic, but having suffered through BER several times, I have a few tips to share which might reduce your own suffering. First: post-security you will find some of the most disgusting food ever served in an airport, but hey it’s also expensive and the servers don’t hide how much they hate being there! However, there is a little shop near the left-side stairs that sells better alcohol as well as soft drink…

> First: post-security you will find some of the most disgusting food ever served in an airport, but hey it’s also expensive and the servers don’t hide how much they hate being there!

This also describes all 3 major NYC airports. I have to plan around it and bring food with me.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by jeromegv »

b112 wrote: post #134
vanviegen wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it's absurd that flying such a short distance apparently was an attractive option (to some) until recently.

It's about 450km, which is between 4 and 5 hours, traffic at each city depending.. A propeller plane shines here. If boarding is quick, and there is no customs as it is in country, and you just carry on? You save time, and it's better than 20 to 50 people driving independantly. A plane can also fly straight too, so it can take even 1/3 of the time to get there. Which is why boarding slow downs are so sad.

OP likely meant that it is a very sad thing for the environment that we (as a society) privilege air travel instead of train travel for such a short distance and where there’s no need to cross a border.

The train brings you in the middle of both city center, directly integrated with transit, you can show up about 10 min before your departure, etc. It’s just the actual rail that is the problem.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by rglullis »

b112 wrote: post #89
arez wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what? Tegel was the best airport ever, you could literally be there 20min before check-in and still get your plane. Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before, tegel was a blessing a true king of all airports, all hail tegel

Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before This is true many places, although I tend to show with a tighter timetable myself. But it's so absurd, so silly. It's actually faster to drive from Ottawa to Toronto(4 to 5 hr drive) than take a plane, and cheaper.. even with current fuel costs, too. What a way to ruin a mode of travel.

Wait until you find out about this amazing invention called the train. You can take them at the city center, you stop at the city center, no waiting times, faster, safer and cheaper than driving...

In all seriousness though, any country serious about climate change should ban short-haul flights.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by rglullis »

bobthepanda wrote: post #119
vanviegen wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it's absurd that flying such a short distance apparently was an attractive option (to some) until recently.

Usually, most small flights of that type are connections onward. It's usually good for passengers because all other things being equal the security procedures at smaller airports, the traffic etc. is a lot less bad.

Trains still should be the alternative for these cases. The only exception I can think of where short-haul flights could be accepted is from small islands that need connection to a larger city inland.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by kortilla »

vasco wrote: post #136
BergTheBold wrote: post #2

Oh this is an article about how someone else screwed up an airport? I was hoping to learn how to mess them up myself :(

Very annoying but not super bad. 1. Buy tickets to a bunch of flights on any day. 2. Check-in luggage with a raspberry pi inside with a bunch of electronics coming out of it and two powered 8 segment displays. 3. Do not board any of those planes. All those planes will be delayed while they remove your checked luggage from the hold since nowadays planes don't take-off with luggage if the traveller doesn't also board.…

I don’t see how 2 will accomplish anything extra here. If it gets caught in X-ray it will be before it goes on the plane.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by rsynnott »

m_fayer wrote: post #121
rsynnott wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was… not great if you were coming from outside Schengen. I was there maybe three times, coming from Dublin; twice, only one of the passport desks was staffed (they also had the machines, but I never saw them in working order). Both times, of course, someone ahead of me in the queue had some problem, and it took an hour to get through passport control. Never seen this at any other airport. Schonefeld was better, th…

Schönefeld definitely won the award for most disgusting airport bathrooms in western EU, and most kafka-esque narrow winding hallways that may or may not be taking you where you want to go.

See, normal-airport problems! It's annoying in a normal airport way; Tegel was annoying in exciting new unique ways.

(Honestly, I expect Tegel was pretty good for Schengen traffic).

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by the_gipsy »

ginko wrote: post #47
franze wrote: post #26

I just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.

>They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput. Continuous integration?

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Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by O__________O »

ginko wrote: post #47
franze wrote: post #26

I just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.

>They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput. Continuous integration?

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