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Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by kolinko » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:00 PM UTC

arez wrote: post #80

anamexis wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, given the experience at Tegel, I'd say past performance is very indicative of future. What a terrible airport that was.

what? Tegel was the best airport ever, you could literally be there 20min before check-in and still get your plane. Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before, tegel was a blessing a true king of all airports, all hail tegel

Unless there was a crazy line that day to that single security spot and you had to jump the line or risk getting late for your plane.

I flew through Tegel a dosen times and it was a horrible experience each time. Not sure which was worse - the old terminal, or the new barrack added on to the first one.

Also, I've seen multiple airports that allowed you to be 20 min before boarding and still get through. On Warsaw Chopin, which is 2x bigger than Tagel, I can arrive 10 min before boarding and still make it on time. With most airports the size of Tagel as well.

Having said all that - the architecture was nice indeed, and I'm sure it was very functional when it was built and there was 4x less traffic, planes were 30% smaller and the security was way lighter.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by sdfhdhjdw3 » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:07 PM UTC

yunohn wrote: post #81

sdfhdhjdw3 wrote: post #69

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Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by throw93232 » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:08 PM UTC

noasaservice wrote: post #90

You really want to fuck up an airport? Do the following, in no particular order. 1. Spoof GPS, as in emulate the constellation. Randomize it every few minutes. Move transmitter around. 2. Plain old jam GPS. You can buy cheap and nasty GPS jammers. If you're good with electronics, hook em up to a 555 timer and trigger to prevent a lock but like 5% duty cycle. 3. Spoof ADS-B to create thousands or 10's of thousands of…

There are like 20k javelin missiles on black market now. Spoofing radio is innocent child game.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by therein » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:11 PM UTC

ginko wrote: post #47

franze wrote: post #26

I just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.

>They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput. Continuous integration?

Criminal Intent

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by kolinko » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:13 PM UTC

arez wrote: post #80

anamexis wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, given the experience at Tegel, I'd say past performance is very indicative of future. What a terrible airport that was.

what? Tegel was the best airport ever, you could literally be there 20min before check-in and still get your plane. Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before, tegel was a blessing a true king of all airports, all hail tegel

> Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before

I flew through the new Berlin airport 2 times this week, and had no issues going through security and to the gates. That 3-4hrs in your case seems absurdly long - were there crazy lines at the checkin or sth?

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by devoutsalsa » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:19 PM UTC

Human fire alarms...

Hans hovering near a kitchen on a new cook's first day.

"Du verbrennst das Schnitzel! "

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by ben_w » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:20 PM UTC

cyberpunk wrote: post #10

odiroot wrote: post #7

Best way: close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population. Even better, do it against their explicit wishes with a shady decision that reeks of corruption. Any follow-up to that will always end up being "fucked up".

I mean, sort of. The A gates which all had the separate security for each gate worked great. You could rock up 25 mins before your BA flight and just cruise right onto the plane. That stopped there though, did you ever fly from B or C? Tolerable enough if you're catching a commuter to Munich or something at 7am, but once it's filled with tourists it was appalling, far too small, far too crowded. Living in the west of…

Regarding noise, something I recorded under the flight path before TXL closed: https://youtu.be/OIu-dDKCBoI

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by dean177 » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:20 PM UTC

ginko wrote: post #47

franze wrote: post #26

I just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.

>They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput. Continuous integration?

Consumer intent

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by dekhn » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:22 PM UTC

anamexis wrote: post #71

bobthepanda wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same architect who designed Tegel did BER. Sometimes, past performance is not indicative of the future.

I don't know, given the experience at Tegel, I'd say past performance is very indicative of future. What a terrible airport that was.

Is that the one that had the really awkward bathrooms?

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Post by mytailorisrich » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 8:25 PM UTC

martinald wrote: post #79

mytailorisrich wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK the standard furlough scheme was as generous as it gets.

For most sectors yes it was. For airlines and airports it wasn't as helpful, as the sector had very low demand throughout the whole pandemic, minus a couple of 'false start' months. Compare this to busses and trains who got furlough PLUS a very generous package to cover nearly all of their running costs.

You seem to be talking about aid paid to companies.

The furlough scheme allowed companies to keep employees without having to pay them (they were paid by government). If airlines and airports were so short-sighted to still layoff plenty of staff then they should now be made to bear the full cost.