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How to fuck up an airport

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Re: How to fuck up an airport

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I just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.

>They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput. Continuous integration?

Cat Immutability

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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The same architect who designed Tegel did BER. Sometimes, past performance is not indicative of the future.

I don't know, given the experience at Tegel, I'd say past performance is very indicative of future. What a terrible airport that was.

I found it quite novel, checking in and then immediately going through security to your gate behind.

A lot of airports are vast complexes and takes you a while to get from A - B, Tegel was quite quaint in comparison!

Admittedly for a major/global city - it was too small.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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I just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.

The same architect who designed Tegel did BER. Sometimes, past performance is not indicative of the future.

Second system syndrome?

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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I just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.

The same architect who designed Tegel did BER. Sometimes, past performance is not indicative of the future.

If you listen to the podcast they explain that it wasn't his fault.

Spoilers: he designed BER for fast passenger transit, just like Tegel, but the airport authorities wanted more shopping space. So they crammed as many shops as they could in detriment of the passenger experience. And then there's the situation with the rise of low-cost airlines who weren't allowed to use the jetway...

I definitely recommend listening to the whole series. It's really well done and a must-listen for anyone with interest in project management.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Best way: close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population. Even better, do it against their explicit wishes with a shady decision that reeks of corruption. Any follow-up to that will always end up being "fucked up".

> functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population You can’t possibly mean Tegel? I’ve never met anyone who has used Tegel who didn’t think it was clearly the worst airport in the world. I used to literally avoid doing any business in Berlin because Tegel was so painful.

> I’ve never met anyone who has used Tegel who didn’t think it was clearly the worst airport in the world

Well, you've met one (or actually, many) now. So you won't be able to use that line moving forward.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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I think TXL should have stayed open and know that BER is a terrible airport, but "well-oiled machine" and "loved by the city population" is a stretch.

BER works just fine, if the problems get resolved. The last time, i got picked up by someone. Walked a little, stepped outside, into the car, and out of the airport area. Done.

> BER works just fine, if the problems get resolved

They've been saying that for a very, very long time

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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I don't know, given the experience at Tegel, I'd say past performance is very indicative of future. What a terrible airport that was.

what? Tegel was the best airport ever, you could literally be there 20min before check-in and still get your plane. Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before, tegel was a blessing a true king of all airports, all hail tegel

Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before

This is true many places, although I tend to show with a tighter timetable myself.

But it's so absurd, so silly. It's actually faster to drive from Ottawa to Toronto(4 to 5 hr drive) than take a plane, and cheaper.. even with current fuel costs, too.

What a way to ruin a mode of travel.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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You really want to fuck up an airport? Do the following, in no particular order.

1. Spoof GPS, as in emulate the constellation. Randomize it every few minutes. Move transmitter around.

2. Plain old jam GPS. You can buy cheap and nasty GPS jammers. If you're good with electronics, hook em up to a 555 timer and trigger to prevent a lock but like 5% duty cycle.

3. Spoof ADS-B to create thousands or 10's of thousands of planes in airspace. Most systems will die from not enough ram to handle these. If they do survive, then they'll get alerts from everything everywhere.

4. Jam ADS-B. Not as terrible, but still bad.

5. Build a Gnuradio flow that watches 117.975-137 MHz and selectively emits white noise on channels when in use. Kills comms.

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