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Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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Do you have any close male friends? What is their advice? Do they have single male friends to introduce you to? What has gone wrong in previous dating relationships? Nothing stuck? Ghosted? Marriage is a game of 'good enough' not soulmates, and I think a lot of chagrin over the whole thing comes from this. You've come to the right forum for being given advice by a bunch of men. Good luck

The point of getting advice from make friends is a very good one. They just need to be closer enough to honestly point out what is wrong (and what isn't).

I am often surprised how I misinterpret some behaviors of women. I am lucky to have a very, very good female friend (something like a sister, with all the posts and minuses :)) who does the translation for me.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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I suggest 'giving up' and just have fun, travel, sports, get fitter to play better.

Be the mysterious woman having fun.

A man's imagination is far more powerful than any reality you might conjure up, you can reveal too much.

Remember, men will consider 90% of women, but women only consider 10% of men.

There's a lot of competition for that 10%.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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If you've only been doing it for two years... it may just not be long enough. I'm so sorry that's the case, but it seems to be. Also, you say a lot about yourself, but not a lot about what makes someone a "marriageable man". What are your criteria? Who are you looking for? Clearly you have a lot of people who seem like good candidates, so what rules them out?

My own anecdata is that it took me about three years of seriously looking - in my mid twenties - to find the person I'm now married to. She was my first and only successful date from Bumble in two years of using that app. I had done everything else: met people through my faith, through social events, used all the other apps, on and on and on.

Then, when we did meet, it was like lightning. It was one of the most bizarre experiences I have ever had, because I was completely convinced the kind of falling in love I experienced was a) impossible and b) would never be requited, and yet it was happening to me. It still makes my heart flutter thinking about it. I've spoken to my wife about it and she felt and still feels the same way. Within maybe a few hours of meeting each other, we both suspected, and after a couple of months we knew for sure. Like you, I had dated a lot of people, and many of them fit most or all of my personal criteria, and I theirs, but they weren't the right fit for reasons I couldn't quite explain. I don't think that means my wife is "the One" or anything - there is no such thing - but I have never met anyone else I'm not related to by blood with whom I've shared this kind of connection and a romantic intent.

It's incredibly tough and painful to search for that needle in a haystack, and I'm sorry you're going through it. But I believe it's possible to find for the vast majority of people.

I could write a lot more on this subject, but this has probably been poetical enough for now. I hope this helps.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a guy, on average you're actually getting more attractive as you age. For women, it works the opposite, which can understandably be very difficult for former hotties. The tables flip around 35-40 years old. Regardless, I wish you all the best and hope you find someone as awesome as I'm certain you are!

I've heard that , and i can tell you it's not necessarily true. I had a lot more success ten years ago for sure. Thanks for the kind words, though.

You're correct that this won't apply across the board, but at the end of the day, dating is totally a numbers + filtering game.

Don't sell yourself short, patience and perseverance are virtues in this arena :)

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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I'm same age and a woman (but lesbian). My perspective is different though but I do understand. My advice - don't focus on the end goal. Which seems to be multiple: - Be married - Have kids - Be in love Those goals are all achievable by themselves and each one leads you toward the holy trinity. Meet people that you can connect with. As a nerd who loves data analysis, you have 120 dates of data you can look into to de…

Thank you for such a kind and encouraging note. I do think I get a little hung up on the order of these things . And I love the idea of looking at these as data points as opposed to , I’m so frustrated and defeated.

I think I also get overwhelmed by the number of options on dating apps.

I did freeze my eggs (thanks mom for the grand kids investment )

One thing I’ve learned as a tech entrepreneur is there aren’t quick fixes, not when hiring, not when building a company or finding love.

I really appreciate you and your kind, warm words.

I plan in trying everyone’s suggestions and I will circle back !

Many blessings , good vibes, big hugs or whatever you like in terms of positive intentions your way

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#186

If you've only been doing it for two years... it may just not be long enough. I'm so sorry that's the case, but it seems to be. Also, you say a lot about yourself, but not a lot about what makes someone a "marriageable man". What are your criteria? Who are you looking for? Clearly you have a lot of people who seem like good candidates, so what rules them out? My own anecdata is that it took me about three years of se…

This is actually an incredibly wonderful, very validating and encouraging response.

I’ve been reading a bit about light tailed and heavy tailed systems and I think that this quite reflects the heavy -tailed nature of dating but also the magic and possibility .

I actually had a similar experience with meeting my first boyfriend on bumble and while he ultimately decided he didn’t want to have a child with me, it still makes me believe what you say is try and recognize it.

This does help and Thanks for the encouragement to keep moving forward.

Thank you so so much. And I’m so very happy for you that you found your true love. It’s probably also because you and your wife have big hearts that are ready to give and receive that kind of love. Your loving spirit is certainly reflected here in this generous note to me.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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If you've only been doing it for two years... it may just not be long enough. I'm so sorry that's the case, but it seems to be. Also, you say a lot about yourself, but not a lot about what makes someone a "marriageable man". What are your criteria? Who are you looking for? Clearly you have a lot of people who seem like good candidates, so what rules them out? My own anecdata is that it took me about three years of se…

This mirrors my experience almost exactly - it's like lightning, and hasn't faded even over time.

I'd add it's been especially tough to date during the past two years due to the pandemic. Many high-quality people didn't even bother to be on the apps, so often the inventory wasn't very good, to say the least.

Once you find your needle and get to the other side of this process, it'll feel like you're finally home and you won't even remember all the near endless pain and nonsense you've been through to get there.

p.s. Sorry for chiming in so much in this thread, I'm super passionate about this topic and really feel for @actfrench. Successful dating has a high learning curve these days, to say the least. It's a huge topic, and I hope I've been at least somewhat helpful to you and other HNers.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#188

I suggest 'giving up' and just have fun, travel, sports, get fitter to play better. Be the mysterious woman having fun. A man's imagination is far more powerful than any reality you might conjure up, you can reveal too much. Remember, men will consider 90% of women, but women only consider 10% of men. There's a lot of competition for that 10%.

Your numbers are way off. The majority of men end up in long-term relationships with women. So women are obviously considering more than 10% of men.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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Personally speaking, formal dating never worked for me. It was always too much like a job interview, where both parties were looking for reasons to say “no”. The only meaningful relationships I’ve had so far in life were with women I met as friends in school or on one-night stands I didn’t want to end. I think in both cases this was because the fundamental dynamic was looking for reasons to say “yes”. If interviewing for full-time roles hasn’t worked for you, perhaps try a more freelance approach.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it sounds like you're going through the moves to find the right guy, but you don't actually take the ideas and self-reflection parts to heart. Some questions: Why do you want kids? (There are basically two answers, either it is because you have something to give or because you want something. I guess you can figure out which mindset is healthier.) Are you actually interested in the people around you? Not only m…

Actually, I've done an extensive amount of intensive self-reflection, I would definitely wager more than most people.... Did you see where I mentioned therapy, dating coaches, support groups, meditation and hypnosis ?

Yes, that's what I meant with "going through the moves".

Or let me phrase it another way: Did you notice any remarkable changes when you did these things? Examples could be: Revelations about your relationship with your parents, how you perceive certain situations, understanding your feelings better, gaining a better sense of your body etc. If you know someone who has what you wants, what is that person like? Are you like them or do you behave differently? How has your behavior changed during self-reflection? (No need to answer in public, just to give you an idea of what I mean and what I think are important points during self-reflection.)

My impression is that most self-help approaches teach the same things, but not everyone is equally receptive to each approach. Same with therapists, coaching and groups, sometimes it takes another try to find the one that is right for you. Most stuff seems to focus on the intellectual level, but I think that it is equally important to experience the feelings that come with it (for example with techniques like Focusing).

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