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Goodbye, Feedly

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Re: Goodbye, Feedly

#152
"I could go pro, but nah" -- I read this and closed the tab. What a whingefest from a free tier user.

The Reddit crawling problem is because Reddit rate limits their crawling so they have to prioritize the most popular feeds. What's the problem with linking your account, or making a dedicated feedly throwaway for crawling?

Been a pro user since the beginning because I want the service to stick around. It works just as well as it always has and I don't mind that they're adding new features even if they aren't for me.

Sheesh.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In case of Feedly, yes. I feel like a hamster being tried to be converted. You are a hamster trying to be converted. That’s the point of the free tier. You could just pay for it and the nagging would stop. You are now paying for TTRSS and have the experience of a paying customer.

Hard to say. Part of the appeal of advertising in Cosmpolitan or the New York Times is that the readers have qualified themselves by paying for a subscription. Netflix is playing a dangerous game by letting people pay to turn on ads because the kind of person who values their attention so little to save a few dollars isn’t going to buy anything. The really desirable people to advertise to are the ones who have more m…

> The really desirable people to advertise to are the ones who have more money to spend.

The people you want to advertise to are not necessarily people who have money. It’s people who will buy your product. That’s the supposed value of online advertising: better targeting. There is still plenty of money to be made outside of the most affluent segments.

> My guess is that a person who subscribes to the entry level of a product is more likely to be upsold to something else than a free user is going to even think about paying.

That’s true. But you still need a way to onboard people on the first paying tier at some point.

> try watching TV during the daytime and it is depressing to see ads for prescription drugs and Medicare scams and personal injury lawyers

That’s because of the demographic who watch TV during daytime: mostly retired people or unemployed people amongst which disabilities must be above average. Forty years ago you will have bombarded with ads for soap.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

#154

Is there an easy to use self hosted solution for this?

If you’re on a Mac or iOS you can use Reeder, which syncs to iCloud and eliminates the need for any other cloud service. I think other RSS apps may do the same.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

#156
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

reddit provides RSS feeds: https://www.reddit.com/wiki/rss

The parent poster even acknowledged this. The point is the feed is rate limited. And you need one call per unique subreddit. And Feedly's users collectively have more unique subreddits than the Reddit rate limit.

Strange; I can subscribe to user rss feeds in Newsblur.

I'm guessing Newsblur somehow rotates through all the users' collective RSS feeds in some manner to not trip the rate limit, which might explain why new posts don't show up immediately.

(Which is fine for me as a user; most of the reddit RSS feeds I subscribe to, I don't need to see immediately!)

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

#157
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Going through the article I realized this attitude is what eventually kills some really good software. If a software does what you expect it to do and does it well but includes a few prompts here and there for marketing purposes...is that really so bad? Live and let live, I say. Not everyone is running a charity and Feedly is nowhere even near the top of the list of software ripping off their users or selling their d…

RSS is basically impossible to monetize. It's a protocol to access content. Monetizing RSS is like trying to monetize HTTP. The problem is that companies try to monetize RSS, and the only way of doing so is to provide features that RSS can't offer. AI-curated feeds, integrations with X or Y, nudges to let go of RSS entirely for some applications and instead use whatever integration they've come up with... Some people…

> The problem is that companies try to monetize RSS, and the only way of doing so is to provide features that RSS can't offer.

I don't know if I agree; I pay Newsblur a yearly fee because it's worth it to me having a centralized web-app that I don't have to self-host (and consequently, don't have to worry about paying for, or hitting rate limits, etc.) with a nice UI and a few features like sorting by folder.

Granted, I have no idea how much it costs to run Newsblur; I certainly hope they're at least breaking even. I also don't know if I'm a typical-enough user.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

#158
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Going through the article I realized this attitude is what eventually kills some really good software. If a software does what you expect it to do and does it well but includes a few prompts here and there for marketing purposes...is that really so bad? Live and let live, I say. Not everyone is running a charity and Feedly is nowhere even near the top of the list of software ripping off their users or selling their d…

> If a software does what you expect it to do and does it well but includes a few prompts here and there for marketing purposes...is that really so bad?

According to the article, Feedly no longer upholds the basic promise of an RSS feed reader: to allow the user to curate a list of RSS feeds and follow them.

From the article:

> For example, I recently wanted to add an RSS feed for a Reddit user, but it was not possible in Feedly. In order to do so, I had to connect to Reddit with my Reddit user, i.e., allow Feedly to access my data. No way, no thanks.

If an RSS feed reader makes it "not possible" to import certain RSS feeds because the app instead wants to use proprietary APIs for those feeds, than the RSS feed reader no longer "does what you expect it do and does it well".

At this point the app is fundamentally broken by design and I too would migrate away from such an app.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

#159
Feedly is not serious RSS. They don’t have the right taste for the RSS guys of right mind. Switched off after a few months years ago, then become a user for Feedbin. I recently switched to self hosted Miniflux due to their customizable full text scraper and had never been happier.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

#160
post #12

Going through the article I realized this attitude is what eventually kills some really good software. If a software does what you expect it to do and does it well but includes a few prompts here and there for marketing purposes...is that really so bad? Live and let live, I say. Not everyone is running a charity and Feedly is nowhere even near the top of the list of software ripping off their users or selling their d…

RSS is basically impossible to monetize. It's a protocol to access content. Monetizing RSS is like trying to monetize HTTP. The problem is that companies try to monetize RSS, and the only way of doing so is to provide features that RSS can't offer. AI-curated feeds, integrations with X or Y, nudges to let go of RSS entirely for some applications and instead use whatever integration they've come up with... Some people…

>RSS is basically impossible to monetize.

It may also be illegal (or at least on shaky grounds) if you happen to make money out of content that is not yours.

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