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Goodbye, Feedly

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Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by FBISurveillance »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #107
bayindirh wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is that really so bad? In case of Feedly, yes. I feel like a hamster being tried to be converted. Feedly's free tier doesn't feel like free. It feels like a getaway drug which tries to make you pay for other features. I have used for a week, then SDF announced availability of their TTRSS instance. As a paying member, I moved there. I am much more happier now. TTRSS is free and open source. I'm just supporting SDF s…

> In case of Feedly, yes. I feel like a hamster being tried to be converted. You are a hamster trying to be converted. That’s the point of the free tier. You could just pay for it and the nagging would stop. You are now paying for TTRSS and have the experience of a paying customer.

A happy paying Feedly user ever since Google Reader shut down. I find it great.

I'm also a paying Dropbox customer and they keep nagging about Dropbox for Business and _that_ I find annoying.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by bayindirh »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #107
bayindirh wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is that really so bad? In case of Feedly, yes. I feel like a hamster being tried to be converted. Feedly's free tier doesn't feel like free. It feels like a getaway drug which tries to make you pay for other features. I have used for a week, then SDF announced availability of their TTRSS instance. As a paying member, I moved there. I am much more happier now. TTRSS is free and open source. I'm just supporting SDF s…

> In case of Feedly, yes. I feel like a hamster being tried to be converted. You are a hamster trying to be converted. That’s the point of the free tier. You could just pay for it and the nagging would stop. You are now paying for TTRSS and have the experience of a paying customer.

I'm not paying for TTRSS. I'm donating to SDF[0], which is free, but I'm paying to keep them sustainable. They added TTRSS to the services they offer, so I moved there. I can clone and install TTRSS[1] to a VPS of mine in 20 minutes, but I'm lazy.

> You are a hamster trying to be converted. That’s the point of the free tier.

I don't think so. Trello's free tier is usable. GitLab and GitHub's free tiers are usable, Pocket's free tier is usable. I'm paying to many services which I can use freely and get things done, and I pay for the highest tier I can make use of and fits my budget, but Feedly's take is esp. bad about their paid tier and nagging.

The problem is not presence of paid tier. It's how it's presented to you. I can pay for feedly, but I don't need the features me, and they were so pushy that it put me off.

[0]: https://www.sdf.org

[1]: https://tt-rss.org/

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by Daunk »

RSS is something I really want to use, but so far I've not been able to find a single piece of software that handles RSS that doesn't suck. I want to add a bunch of RSS feeds, and then have the software notify me - or at least highlight - when related "tags" or words are used, as well as be able to see "everything". But I guess RSS is about to die out anyways, as more and more news sites only allow you to read the first few lines of an article before having to visit their site.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by Adraghast »

Semiapies wrote: post #111
prepend wrote: post #34

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> This writer is really entitled Yes, but no. They are entitled like you and I, and everyone, is entitled to good products and not being angry when using them. They aren’t especially entitled to the point to use the word as an insult. Feedly sells ads. So it’s free, but they include ads. They aren’t a charity benevolently putting out the app and everyone should suck it up and be thankful. Obviously, people can choose…

They are entitled like you and I, and everyone, is entitled to good products and not being angry when using them. Sure, if you're paying for it. If not, prepare for all the ways a company is going to try to make the service profitable, starting with ads and come-ons to paid tiers. Don't want that? Pay, or self-host something. It's absolutely entitled to make an indignant post about why you're changing away from a ser…

I don’t think it’s entitled at all to expect things to not suck regardless of whether they’re free or require payment. Truly good products make you want to pay to receive a carrot, bad ones to avoid a stick. The only carrots Feedly has to offer are all moldy and gross, so they’ve resorted to more and more sticks.

The author also did exactly what you want by switching to NetNewsWire, so I don’t know what you’re complaining about other than that they made a blog post explaining that decision.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

Daunk wrote: post #124

RSS is something I really want to use, but so far I've not been able to find a single piece of software that handles RSS that doesn't suck. I want to add a bunch of RSS feeds, and then have the software notify me - or at least highlight - when related "tags" or words are used, as well as be able to see "everything". But I guess RSS is about to die out anyways, as more and more news sites only allow you to read the fi…

I started using liferea a few months ago, primarily to track YT channels without YT (so to speak). It can do some version of everything you've mentioned, though is weak on the automatic tag notification thing (though for the feeds I follow, that makes sense, since they are mostly video).

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by DSMan195276 »

andrelaszlo wrote: post #59
jollins wrote: post #13

This writer is really entitled. It is a free tier for a service that costs money to host and maintain. Of course there are upgrade prompts. I use Feedly (free) as a hosting service, and Reeder or one of the other many great RSS client apps as the frontend to it, so I don’t have to see the feedly interface.But the Feedly API I use constantly and it is extremely solid. That’s part of the greatness of RSS services. If t…

I see where you come from but I didn't read it that way. They point out why the product no longer fits their needs, and why the paid version is not appealing . The conclusion is the opposite of entitled: I'll use something else.

I think the entitled part is where they wrote a whole rant that basically amounts to "they want me to pay for it" and posted it here.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by blacklight »

longrod wrote: post #12

Going through the article I realized this attitude is what eventually kills some really good software. If a software does what you expect it to do and does it well but includes a few prompts here and there for marketing purposes...is that really so bad? Live and let live, I say. Not everyone is running a charity and Feedly is nowhere even near the top of the list of software ripping off their users or selling their d…

RSS is basically impossible to monetize. It's a protocol to access content. Monetizing RSS is like trying to monetize HTTP.

The problem is that companies try to monetize RSS, and the only way of doing so is to provide features that RSS can't offer. AI-curated feeds, integrations with X or Y, nudges to let go of RSS entirely for some applications and instead use whatever integration they've come up with...

Some people may be happy with this. Some people may only care about the information they eventually get, not HOW they get it. But I'm not among those people, and many other people are not.

I personally felt very annoyed by Feedly nagging me on a daily basis to upgrade in order to get features that I didn't need and never asked for.

I feel like being approached every day by a dude who wants to sell me a vaccum cleaner that I don't want. And of course I understand that they also need to make money, but they should also respect those who simply want an RSS reader and are insensitive to all these campaigns.

Thats the reason why I moved from Feedly to a self-hosted Miniflux instance (and Nextcloud News before it). If I host it myself, then I don't have to pay anyone for hosting my feeds, and I'm not supposed to be targeted by marketing campaigns to pull money out of my wallet on a daily basis.

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by wahnfrieden »

motoxpro wrote: post #90
elyseum wrote: post #81

So you liked Feedly for almost 10 years, but never bothered to support them financially. And now you complain that they go the extra mile trying to earn money?

Exactly. It's so comical. You were never going to support them making their software, never going to upgrade, never going to provide any value to them in anyway even though they provided value to you for 10 years. Seems like this is a good thing for feedly.

for apparently nonsense features. this isn’t a patronage model, it’s a product (and the free tier is not what’s being sold)

Re: Goodbye, Feedly

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Post by [deleted] »

simonw wrote: post #114
aflag wrote: post #100

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The author acknowledged that though. He seemed to even had considered buying it, but thought it was not worth it. He eventually settled on something simple and free. It doesn't surprise me that running a simple RSS feed tool is not profitable.

There is very little simple about running an RSS aggregator, especially at scale.

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