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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by hammock »

mulmen wrote: post #570
hammock wrote: post #531

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Can I ask what you tried searching? Because "Jungle Builders' channels" pulled it up immediately.

I was looking for the aftermath specifically. Not just the channels where the structures are built. So I searched “jungle builders aftermath” and “jungle builders today”.

Found a video with the aftermath: https://youtu.be/YCyLWhPnq1M

For documentation purposes, I googled “jungle builders are a scam,” clicked the second result which is a Reddit thread and found this in the comments 4-5 parent comments down

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Post by tonfreed »

astura wrote: post #95
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Ann Reardon's (subject of this article) channel calls out these other channels and she even tries to recreate these fake crafts to prove they are fake.

I feel sorry for Dave. How many times do you think he's come home to an absolute mess, weird kitchen smells and Ann has just mumbled something about YouTube?

She's definitely one of my favourites, and I have a copy of her cookbook that I use a lot.

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Post by Treblemaker »

pessimizer wrote: post #477
mikestew wrote: post #197

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Hello, Mr. or Ms. Survivor Bias! I used to cut firewood with my father using a 3 foot buzz saw made over 100 years ago*, and had but only the most token of safety guards (ignore the giant power take-off belt that's just waiting to consume some of your loose clothing, and you with it), yet I still have all limbs, fingers, and toes! And yet I still think it asinine to shrug shoulders and say, "I dunno, nobody I know ev…

> If one cannot see the potential for harm in such scenarios This is a strawman. Nobody claimed that any activity was perfectly safe.

Nothing is "perfectly safe". Many things are egregiously, unnecessarily unsafe.

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Post by tehwebguy »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #169
tehwebguy wrote: post #125

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Plenty of people hate this shit and still watch it because they got tricked. I watched (skimmed) like 12 videos yesterday trying to find a hack to locate my empty AirPods case. There’s apparently no way to do it but each video had a more infuriatingly false title than the last.

It would never even occur to me to watch a video on finding my AirPods case. Either there is an article or forum post for it, or I need to post a question on a forum, but no way am I sifting through the garbage that is YouTube.

It just depends on the subject matter I think.

Plenty of my searches will lead me to a solid stackoverflow / reddit / quora / forum answer but another large percentage only seem to lead to the blog equivalent of the offending YouTube videos, hyper tuned to show a description that leads me to believe it's what I want but delivering nothing.

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Post by InefficientRed »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #275
InefficientRed wrote: post #269

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Same. It's probably a generational thing, with the split at maybe 20 or something where video became both searchable and trivial in terms of bandwidth. But, to be fair, the Google-as-front-door internet has become totally useless for these types of tasks as well. Those wiki-style pages with huge walls of text offering nonsense advice are a plague.

Yes, I filter out all that garbage too, but because it is text, I can filter it out 100x faster than video.

If you don't mind explaining: how? I constantly find myself on those (very heavy) pages and haven't found a good way to avoid them except to restrict my search to certain domains (SO, Reddit, etc.)

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Post by tengwar2 »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #528
throwaway9870 wrote: post #62

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It probably should have been more than 3 hours given that you likely mean "voltage" not "amps". Before everyone jumps on me, "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage", I understand electricity quite well and in this context, saying something like "handling high amps in a university" is almost certainly not what was taught.

Yeah, usually when someone parrots the "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage" line, I have to remind them that the amps depends on the volts. A car battery is capable of hundreds of amps, but if you touch the contacts with your hands, you won't feel a thing, because the voltage is too low to overcome your body's resistance. I imagine if you wired the leads to your tongue, your tongue would probably explode thoug…

It's advisable to remove rings if there is any way they could short across a car battery. The battery has very low internal resistance, so you can get a sizeable part of a kilo-amp flowing, which due to "P = I^2 R" can generate an impressive amount of heat. In fact some owners of certain Russian motorcycles with a propensity (Ural, Dneipr etc.) were able to weld bits back on in the field by using the carbon contact breaker points to do rough arc welding.

Which doesn't contradict you at all - I'm just saying treat car batteries with respect.

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Post by kragen »

xxs wrote: post #551
kragen wrote: post #486

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High voltage is not inherently dangerous. In a dry climate you can easily develop ten thousand volts by lying down in a bed without bedsprings with a long acrylic blanket and pulling the blanket over your head hair with your feet. You can get multiple-centimeter-long branching sparks of static electricity from your finger. The only danger of the activity (to you) is that you might produce enough ozone to irritate you…

electronics die off ESD w/o the xray. I didn't mentioned ESD on purpose as indeed what really matters is energy/joules. If you have a source capable of high power but for too short time it won't be that dangerous either.

Thanks for clarifying, I didn't mean to imply that X-rays were necessary to kill electronics with ESD, just that they could be dangerous to a human, physically, even at low power levels. Killing electronics with ESD indeed does not require vacuum.

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

timpattinson wrote: post #348
iso1631 wrote: post #324

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There's no particular safety concerned when you're playing with hundreds of kilovolts in a typical school. You need it when the thing you're messing with has the capability of delivering a lot of amps.

415 volts on a 30A breaker, like you might find in an undergraduate electrical engineering lab, is very lethal. I'd hazard a guess that's what the OP is talking about.

415 volts on a 5A breaker is equally lethal, and not high-current.

1,000 Amps and 5 volts is dangerous (sort of), but not in an electrocution sense.

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #454
hedora wrote: post #360

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Once I charged a 1F (not a typo) capacitor with either a AA or 9V battery (can't remember), then touched the leads. Youch!

You must have charged it through some step up device, otherwise the max voltage on the cap is the battery voltage which isn't going to shock you.

Maybe they pinched the leads together between their fingers. That could be painful.

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Post by jsmith45 »

dazzawazza wrote: post #3

Big Clive has a good video on why this is dangerous and how to make it more safe. Note: not safe safe, just more safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro

I've seen either that Big Clive video or one very similar to it, but I swear the one I saw was long before April 2022. Perhaps early 2021 at the latest, if not earlier. I haven't actually watched very much Big Clive this year.

Unsure if this was a re-upload, or remake of an older video, or if I have totally lost my grasp on time???

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