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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by baggsie »

cupofpython wrote: post #45
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

> then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster Do you have a fancy toaster? I wouldve just replaced mine, although mine is pretty basic

I would have made the kid do it

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

cupofpython wrote: post #98
rtkwe wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a super wasteful solution to this. The toaster is perfectly salvageable.

So drop it off at a salvage location. OP was complaining about salvaging it, like it was necessary. If you want to do is as a fun personal project, go for it, but it is wasteful of human time to salvage something that cheap rather than add it to a scrap pile for a professional salvage company to process in bulk. As a bonus, the kid learns that if you arent careful with your items they may break and be gone. you dont…

It's totally reasonable for an individual to say "it's not worth my time and effort to fix this, I'll just replace it." Taking a moral stand against repair-and-reuse in general is weird. Some people are on a budget where replacing even a $25 toaster is not a painless expense. Some people don't like producing unnecessary waste.

And throwing it away without replacing it punishes everyone in the house for the kid's mistake.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by onepointsixC »

denton-scratch wrote: post #131
CM30 wrote: post #32

YouTube's moderation is ridiculous, and it demonstrates the problem Google has in general. They don't like paying actual people to moderate their sites, and rely on automated systems and bots to do everything for them. So, if there's ever an issue (or you have a bunch of scammers mass reporting you because you debunk their 'work'), then YouTube/Google seems to think you're the problem instead of the scumbags. We need…

> we need these scammers to get arrested/sued/whatever for misleading info Don't you think that it's the broadcaster that should be penalised? It is Goo/YT that is promulgating the misinfo. The scammers/creators would go away, if Goo/YT moderated as if their income depended on it.

I would agree that at a certain point there's a responsibility of Alphabet recommending videos that can literally cause viewers to accidentally kill themselves.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by mensetmanusman »

logifail wrote: post #21
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

Here is a hack for extremely fast grilled cheese.

Basic idea is to make the components separately:

1) toast two pieces of bread until they are dry and quite brown, this is important (to remove the water ) so that the bread does not heat up in the microwave

2) while it is toasting, cut up cheese for each slice, I use quarter inch thick 1“ x 2“ pieces, usually four per slice

3) after the bread is toasted, put them on a glass plate and butter them, then cover each with the slices of cheese

4) microwave 30s until the onset of melting

5) optional to add cold deli meat the sandwich after microwaving and combining

6) cut into fours and serve with optional dipping sauce

The dry toast and the melted cheese have a very good texture and taste and it takes about 3 minutes to make.

I make this for children often and add a bunch more cheese and meat so that four pieces of toast can be the main part of a simple lunch for 8 kids (each cut into quadrants).

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by nsxwolf »

samizdis wrote: post #56
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

There's no electrocution risk with that?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by framapotari »

undersuit wrote: post #202
framapotari wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone was blaming modern technology, or anything specific, for this nonsense?

The "cheese on toast" anecdote was told in response to someone blaming modern technology for "outright faking craft and cooking tips". Contextually I gathered that modern technology might be part of the conversation.

That's one way to read it, but it might just be a related anecdote that the poster wanted to share. Without any explicit mention of blaming modern technology I don't think it's fair to make the assumption that the text is doing that.

Just because you respond to something doesn't mean you are either refuting it or agreeing with it.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by wmeredith »

WaitWaitWha wrote: post #182

At what point do we say, "automation as a reason for failure is no longer acceptable"? Edit: That is, when the published information is wrong, false, and was not taken down, or was taken down...

I'm not sure why that was ever an acceptable excuse. If you automate something and it gets people killed, where does the absolution come in, exactly?

"The Sorcerer's Apprentice" segment of Fantasia is quite illustrative about the dangers of automation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DX2yVucz24

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by onepointsixC »

blocked_again wrote: post #38

I think YouTube/Google has a big leadership crisis at the moment. Removing the dislike counter was the obvious sign.

Thank you for reminding me that viewers can't even vote down to try to inform others of how bad those videos are. YT's leadership needs to be replaced.

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Post by GLGirty »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #142
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

> the "just grab 2000V, it's so easy!" videos take it to another level of lethality. The problem is, they're thinking too small. The 2kV supplies in microwaves aren't big enough. If you used the PSU from an old single-digit-megawatts klystron TV transmitter, then you'd have about 50kV at 50A or so. Now this sounds dangerous, but believe it or not, this would be far safer to work with than a microwave transformer. Wha…

This plausibly might not be sarcasm O_o

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by ghostoftiber »

mrtksn wrote: post #166
ghostoftiber wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> simply hold people accountable for the content. Yes but by what level of accountability? If I make a video about changing a clutch, and then some kid drops a gearbox on his face and kills himself, who is responsible? Is Demolition Ranch responsponsible for mass shootings? Is the History channel actually racist because it rebroadcasts Hitler all the time?

That's up to the courts to decide. Definitely not Youtube's business though.

Right. It's kinda hard to get upset about youtubes content and then claim it's up to the courts to decide, huh? ;)
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