Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

boingboing.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 609 posts

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#181

Post by zrobotics »

kzrdude wrote: post #136
ntoskrnl wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a fan of ElectroBoom, but I have to agree, some of them are pretty horrifying to watch. The Jacob's Ladder video sticks out in my mind - I still can't decide whether it was staged. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g1z47U_kZQ

That's the one where he has said it was not staged, if I'm not mistaken. According to comments here https://old.reddit.com/r/ElectroBOOM/comments/7gnt46/that_ja...

The Amp hour podcast interviewed him, and he confirmed that that wasn't staged; he considered leaving it out since it was legitimately dangerous.

https://theamphour.com/562-electroboom/

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#183

Post by winphone1974 »

guggleet wrote: post #118
TrackerFF wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like their DIY / craft vids have moved from glue guns to angle grinders and (tack) welding lately. Anyone with even the smallest amount experience with either, know that these things are accidents bound to happen.

Dunno, I have used both since I was like 13. Also, we used to weld and do all sorts of things (acetylene torching, lathe, casting, grinding, sawing, milling) mostly unsupervised with very little instruction in middle/high school metal shop. I don't remember any accidents.

Well if you got through high school without any accidents it must be a risk free activity...

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#185

Post by jeshin »

mywittyname wrote: post #176
jeshin wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

these are with a low voltage high current winding, instead of the standard 2000v winding, though, which is much safer. The danger of the unmodified microwave transformer isn't really so much that it has exposed mains voltage (although obviously you should be careful around that, too), but that it has 2000v+ and it's galvanically isolated, meaning no GFCI/RCD will save you (and obviously the 2000v will also do a much…

I'm getting flashbacks of UnderDunn's home made battery spot welder built with a microwave transformer.

It's a really common project for them. Certainly a better option than a jacobs ladder or fractal wood burning, since you have to just take the usual mains voltage precautions, and not worry about arcs and other high voltage schenanigans

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#186

Post by wmeredith »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #35

Imperfect moderation is inevitable at the massive scale of social media companies. YouTube receives an enormous quantity of video every day and it’s clearly impossible to have humans review all of it. If we humans did review every single minute of video, the subjective element of moderation would still lead to headlines like this where someone could identify instances of inconsistencies. Given that she re-uploaded th…

> Imperfect moderation is inevitable at the massive scale of social media companies. YouTube receives an enormous quantity of video every day and it’s clearly impossible to have humans review all of it

Then maybe they shouldn't spread it across the globe?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#187

Post by ChoGGi »

reportingsjr wrote: post #85
HideousKojima wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had one the other week where I was replacing an outlet in the kitchen. I flipped the kitchen breaker and the lights and appliances all turned off. I skipped the important step of actually testing the outlet and stupidly assumed it no longer had power. Turns out it was on a different circuit from the rest of the kitchen. The outlet was stuck in the wall box so I reached a flathead screwdriver in to try and pry it ou…

I made the mistake of not testing _all_ of the wires in an outlet a couple of months ago. I used a non contact voltmeter, and had shut off the breaker to the outlet I was working on. Little did I know that the jackass that did some previous wiring in the house had run wires from a different breaker in to this box. It was done in such a way that I didn't fully realize it could have separate live. My palm below my thum…

It isn't against code to have different lines inside one box (at least at any of the places I've lived).

Easiest way is to flip the mains everytime. I wouldn't trust those pencil testers though (the non-contact ones, the light ones yes).

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#188

Post by xxs »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #62
elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

It probably should have been more than 3 hours given that you likely mean "voltage" not "amps". Before everyone jumps on me, "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage", I understand electricity quite well and in this context, saying something like "handling high amps in a university" is almost certainly not what was taught.

I dont know what they did in the uni, I thought it was some wielding or power delivery (CPU and GPUs nowadays deal with 200A+)... So I honestly thought it was high amps, all of them are proper fire hazard.

But you are right, likely it was high voltage.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#189

Post by xxs »

api wrote: post #13
elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

Wait until more DIY EV servicing videos start appearing. If you short something across a decent size EV battery it will be converted into plasma and deposited on your face.

EV is DC, and DC sparks are a thing of beauty as they lack self-extinguishing properties unlike AC sparks.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

#190

Post by kazinator »

whiddershins wrote: post #184

34 people killed is a pretty surprising number. Is it fair to refer to the makers of the videos as murderers? On a moral, if not legal, level?

If they contributed to the takedown of the critical video which informs about the dangers and deaths then I don't find myself able to casually dismiss the accusation of murder (as I would were that not the case).
Post reply on HN