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Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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The Netherlands will be especially impacted by this. We refused actual legalization for many reasons, many of which will be invalidated by Germany decriminalizing. Our current stance on weed is so confusing that it's hard to explain to any foreigner, but strictly speaking weed isn't legal and not even decriminalized... But yes, Amsterdam is in The Netherlands.

In all fairness, it isn't like we want people to come as tourists here to smoke weed or something so should be fine no? For anyone else wanting to know more about the Dutch policy on this: https://www.government.nl/topics/drugs/toleration-policy-reg...

Quick question for our Dutch neighbors: why not?

I never understood why it is exactly that The Netherlands were kind of against the drug tourism. I mean, I'm sure your average pot head tourist is not that much trouble and leaves quite a bit of money, no?

I studied in The Netherlands and always thought I'd be proud as a country to be that "progressive" in a sense -- especially once it became clear that other countries were following.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Do weed shops in legal states not have "light" options? Seems weird if they didn't, but I guess that might be a side effect of recent legalization. That the heavy stuff sells better to consumers who used to take whatever they could find back in the black market days. Anyways, I'm asking because I unfortunately live in a state where it's still illegal.

Hello from legal New England. The only solution I have found is to buy gummies and cut them up into smaller doses. I’ve found a local company that does a hybrid (sativa/indica) gummy and I vastly prefer them to the unspecified gummies which tend to be stronger than I am looking for. I’m tempted to get seeds for a low THC strain but I’m not such a connoisseur as to make that a priority.

Most places in Massachusetts sell a pretty wide variety of oil-based tinctures that you can precisely meter out (5 - 10mg/ml, with a little dropper). Often there are varieties with high ratios of CBD:THC as well, like 1:1 and 10:1. Easier than cutting up a gummy.

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I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

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Racist? Could you elaborate? It's a public health concern as people are getting addicted.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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No, sorry. Study history. Weed was criminalized as a mechanism for white people to control black people, because weed was a Mexican and black person drug when those laws were enacted. It's all in the arguments in favor of the criminalization laws when they were passed. nothing to do with the Protestant Work Ethic. Sorry if the phrase "black person" is offensive, none is meant.

Can you tell us how does your theory apply to the other countries of the globe where marijuana is illegal though?

American hegemony.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6312155/ > without any clear guidelines or regulations from government officials, the cannabis industry has taken a page from the tobacco and alcohol industries’ play book and developed strains of marijuana and concentrated marijuana products with much higher concentrations of THC, the psychoactive component that causes addiction. The more potent a drug is, the stronger th…

I opened with "I'm not proposing doing nothing" - I do think measures to remediate this problem in the short term are a good idea, in line with the fears outlined in your article. Nothing in your article tackles my main point though? > the cannabis industry has taken a page from the tobacco and alcohol industries’ play book As a slightly off-topic aside: tobacco I'm less familiar with (I wasn't aware of efforts by th…

> Alcohol isn't naturally occurring in harvested produce - it's an output from a process.

Ethanol is naturally occurring.

That said, I agree that including alcohol here is bizarre. As far as I can tell there has never been a monotonic increase in ABV; instead, there is a large selection ranging from high alcohol content to even alcohol-free (which is so unpopular in the US as to be barely worth mentioning, but quite popular in Germany, and I'm now seeing large and even regional breweries in the US produce AF versions of their most popular beers).

> Unless they're talking about distillation

Most alcoholic beverages are made through some sort of distillation process, so I'm not sure what difference you're alluding to here.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6312155/ > without any clear guidelines or regulations from government officials, the cannabis industry has taken a page from the tobacco and alcohol industries’ play book and developed strains of marijuana and concentrated marijuana products with much higher concentrations of THC, the psychoactive component that causes addiction. The more potent a drug is, the stronger th…

I opened with "I'm not proposing doing nothing" - I do think measures to remediate this problem in the short term are a good idea, in line with the fears outlined in your article. Nothing in your article tackles my main point though? > the cannabis industry has taken a page from the tobacco and alcohol industries’ play book As a slightly off-topic aside: tobacco I'm less familiar with (I wasn't aware of efforts by th…

> Alcohol isn't naturally occurring in harvested produce - it's an output from a process

Fermentation is a natural process. Alcohol naturally occurs in overripe fruits. Humans first discovered it by accident - fruit juices or grain-water mixtures left out would become alcoholic. In fact, non-fresh non-alcoholic fruit juice only became a product in modern times, because it was only in the modern period we developed the technology to stop the natural process of fermentation.

That said, natural fermentation (without distillation) can only get you up to 18% ABV - beyond that, it poisons the yeast and they stop producing alcohol. To go higher you need distillation/fortification.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Racist? Could you elaborate? It's a public health concern as people are getting addicted.

You also misread. The other stuff is the racist part. This part, "rising potency", is just a predictable effect of prohibition and "change of literally anything" causes Fear in the noobs.

Wake. Up. People.

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