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Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by subpixel »

Tade0 wrote: post #58

My high school classmate and, coincidentally, my SO's friend from college is currently doing time for "possession of large amounts of marijuana" - 19g to be specific. He used to be a local weed dealer and while he knew what he was getting into and was consciously breaking the law at the time, after his first arrest a few years ago he stopped and got a regular job. He only got involved with the court again because one…

I have a high-school friend in prison for 20+ years for marijuana-related charges.

I now live in a recreationally legal state, the irony is not lost on me.

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Post by abbbi »

romanovcode wrote: post #50
hans1729 wrote: post #12

Wording: Germany will not legalise Cannabis. Maybe it will be decriminalized, but there is basically no chance of legalisation (too complex/expensive of a process). I have no reason to trust the SPD that they will deliver on this, they are the infamous poster child for betrayal. They are the kind of party that would sell their entire voting base if it served the acting politicians individual careers. If they will do…

> Maybe it will be decriminalized I don't know where you are from Germany but cannabis is pretty much decriminalized in Berlin already for quite some time. People buy/smoke at the streets and police does not mind.

still, you will lose your drivers license. I dont care if it is decriminalized, if i get pulled over and lose my license becuause i used to smoke 4 days ago, theres something wrong. I think this is one of the biggest hurdles to overcome: how to deal with cosumption in regards to roadworthiness

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Post by mellavora »

kzrdude wrote: post #32
coldcode wrote: post #29

While I have no interest in weed, I never understood why people are against it, since cigarettes are also a drug and are far more damaging to heath and the economy, and in the US kills a couple hundred thousand folks a year, or alcohol, which is a drug, and kills tens of thousands of people a year. Eliminating illegality would save in so many ways, and taxes could help offset other taxes. But no, weed is somehow more…

Cigarettes are stimulating in a way similar to coffee - weed is not, so the lutheran morals dominated cultures (admittedly a quite outdated generalization) look very disapprovingly upon it.

No, sorry. Study history.

Weed was criminalized as a mechanism for white people to control black people, because weed was a Mexican and black person drug when those laws were enacted. It's all in the arguments in favor of the criminalization laws when they were passed.

nothing to do with the Protestant Work Ethic.

Sorry if the phrase "black person" is offensive, none is meant.

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Post by numerik_meister »

darkerside wrote: post #55
numerik_meister wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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s/*/That's interesting. I've never thought about what positive effects there might be. Can you expand?/g

I did not intend to ask a question. I know for sure that a lot of potheads really want to push their recreational drug as a miracle do all drug, while ignoring all the negative effects. The negative effects are well documented science. The positive effects are all vaporous claims from questionable studies.

Really goes to show the objectivity of HN, that I get downvoted for this.

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Post by lucideer »

selfmodruntime wrote: post #3

I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

While I'm not proposing "doing nothing" about this problem, how much of this is likely to be a "hangover" from prohibition. Based on absolutely no data whatsoever, my instinct would be that demand for high-THC/low-CBD products would decrease as access to cannabis becomes less novel.

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Post by Shadonototra »

This is the worst idea ever

The American lobby strikes again, they now control the whole industry and let their domestic market grow for years, they are ready to use EU as their market, yet again

On top of making their population even more dumb

What a sad and funest faith for Europe

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Post by hans1729 »

abbbi wrote: post #72
romanovcode wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe it will be decriminalized I don't know where you are from Germany but cannabis is pretty much decriminalized in Berlin already for quite some time. People buy/smoke at the streets and police does not mind.

still, you will lose your drivers license. I dont care if it is decriminalized, if i get pulled over and lose my license becuause i used to smoke 4 days ago, theres something wrong. I think this is one of the biggest hurdles to overcome: how to deal with cosumption in regards to roadworthiness

>Roadworthiness or streetworthiness is a property or ability of a car, bus, truck or any kind of automobile to be in a suitable operating condition or meeting acceptable standards for safe driving and transport of people, baggage or cargo in roads or streets, being therefore street-legal.

TIL ;)

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Post by romanovcode »

abbbi wrote: post #72
romanovcode wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe it will be decriminalized I don't know where you are from Germany but cannabis is pretty much decriminalized in Berlin already for quite some time. People buy/smoke at the streets and police does not mind.

still, you will lose your drivers license. I dont care if it is decriminalized, if i get pulled over and lose my license becuause i used to smoke 4 days ago, theres something wrong. I think this is one of the biggest hurdles to overcome: how to deal with cosumption in regards to roadworthiness

True, I know a guy from Berlin who had exactly same situation. I wonder if you can call a lawyer and refuse to give your hair/urine in this case.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

Findecanor wrote: post #59

I find it crazy to decriminalise a drug in smoked form. It is often through second-hand smoke in social situations that people get addicted to a smoked drug before they start using it themselves. I'm afraid that that would lead to more addiction. Personally, I don't have anything against it being ingested in other forms: such as "magic" brownies or vaping that don't affect other people around you.

> I find it crazy to decriminalise a drug that is supposed to be smoked. It is through second-hand smoke that people get addicted to a smoked drug

I can testify that as a child with a habitual smoker in the house, of ordinary cigarettes, it was kinda terrible. All our clothes would smell of tabacco, and teachers at school were convinced me and my brother are smokers.

after being tortured by cigarette smoke for a decate, we find them repulsive and have never touched them.

so it runs contrary to my experience, and i never heard of anyone aquiring addiction through 2nd hand smoking, but it can be damaging to the wholw familt.

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