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> Morning Star buffalo nuggets Made from fresh buffalos I presume?
I mean that’s what I assumed when I first bought them. After I realized my terrible mistake I sent a strongly worded letter to the FDA demanding they be called bufallow nuggetz to alleviate any future confusion. I mean they were right next to the mammoth bites and dodo eggs, how was I supposed to know?
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I would love to start product line "Beyond Vegan" with tag line of "better than vegan food" with Vegan word being very big. And then have it contain lot of meat. Entirely honest and not in any way misleading marketing. And no vegan should be able to complain.
Oh wow, every time I see these laws about how "consumers must not be tricked into thinking this liquid oat-based product is in fact not bovine titty juice", I think to myself surely there is no one actually falling for this. The viciousness in your comment makes it clear though, that it does affect you quite a bit.
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At my local grocery store in Massachusetts, some fake meat products are now displayed in the meat section. The thing is though, they (Beyond, etc.) are sometimes more expensive than meat! In some contexts its considered the premium product, and its also there so people having a barbecue or something can provide an option for non-meat eaters. I don't believe at all that they're trying to trick anyone--its more than th…
IIRC, Beyond Meat requires that their products be displayed in the meat case because their target customer is a meat-eater.
To be fair, Beyond Meat does have prominent "Plant Based" text on its packaging: https://brand-directions.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/New_...
I find it funny that vegans would even want to associate with food names of products that they abhor. Many vegans say that have never eaten meat, so why would they want 'steak' or 'sausage' fake meat?
However, products like Quorn have been popular here since the 80s so perhaps people are used to it by now. Even before the whole vegan movement took off, the terms have been overloaded, for example mince pies, head cheese, milk of magnesia, Welsh rabbit/rarebit, peanut butter, portobello steak, beefsteak tomato, rice burgers, oil-based "butter"...
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Nobody's trying to confuse anyone though, they're trying to provide alternatives. "Sausage" is such a generic term, covering so very many things, that it's bizarre to try and restrict it. (edit: almost forgot we are talking about France, a country which tries to control its language by law. Carry on then!)
> (edit: almost forgot we are talking about France, a country which tries to control its language by law. Carry on then!) I get why this is controversial, but keep in mind that a lot of countries do that. English is the outlier here, and that's because it's not being threatened the same way other national languages are.
You're completely right that French is far from the only language with a centralized linguistic authority. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_language_regulators)
As a matter of fact, the United States is all in as a language regulator: they have a language regulator ... for Spanish! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Academy_of_the_...)
Where you are absurdly wrong, is where you say that the threat to a language is the reason for the existence of a language academy. It simply isn't; the reasons are purely historical for almost all languages. I mean, Cardinal Richelieu founded l'académie française. French was not threatened during the reign of Louis XIII!
This debate won't end in a hurry. We've been arguing about what beer is since the German beer laws and before. British Sausages cause hilarity in Europe. The idea that definitionally we can state a-priori what is or is not the current meaning of a term when language itself is plastic is kind of broken because the distinction between Cows, Cattle, Beef, Veal, Bison, Oxen, Bullock and Bull, Buffalo and Bison and Cow, G…
> British Sausages cause hilarity in Europe. Honestly I don't really see why. Yeah the really cheap ones have a lower meat content than other countries tend to use, but german bratwurst are often around 85%(ish) meat, and it's very easy to find British sausages which have that much or higher meat content. I think like many British food stereotypes, it's likely several decades past being factual, and probably has its…
Kidding aside, don't think they're really known outside of Britain. You are probably bringing it up because at some point the EU objected to it being called a meat product because, at least then, a selection failed to meet the required (muscle) meat content (British sausages are very fatty). Precisely because words mean different things to different people, it is worth attempting to come up with a definition and then using it.
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You're conflating metaphors with obfuscation. For example, coconut milk is named so simply because it's a white liquid. It's not trying to be a replacement for milk, or trying to confuse people, it's just a metaphor. But vegan milk, sausages, etc, are all meant to be as similar to the real things as possible so as to cause confusion.
Who the fuck is buying vegan meat and being like "oh I thought this was meat"? Do we seriously need to legislate that? There's no real victim here, it's just a bunch of people who are sour or feel threatened by meat alternatives. It's ridiculous.
Kast, a right-wing populist politician in Chile, made a big stink during his failed presidential bid over "Not Milk." He said only milk from "happy cows" should be promoted. These so-called proponents of the free market sure do hate competition.
https://www.cnnchile.com/pais/kast-critico-notmilk-necesitam...
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I suppose you think animals exist out of thin air, as opposed to the reality of their needing more plant-based calories, for the calories they provide you, than what you’d need if you cut out the middleman.
