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Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by lbotos »

wishfish wrote: post #26
selfmodruntime wrote: post #3

I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

Do weed shops in legal states not have "light" options? Seems weird if they didn't, but I guess that might be a side effect of recent legalization. That the heavy stuff sells better to consumers who used to take whatever they could find back in the black market days. Anyways, I'm asking because I unfortunately live in a state where it's still illegal.

You can mix high THC flower with high CBD flower and "rebalance".

Here is a hemp seller that sells strains that don't have enough THC to be classified as cannabis: https://holycityfarms.com/product-category/flower/

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by seper8 »

Hope so. Here in the Netherlands we've fallen hilariously behind.

It's illegal to produce weed with the intention to sell, but legal to sell. At the same time it's illegal to have a large inventory. So criminals make large amounts of cash by illegally growing weed. And cops have to waste their time dealing with these guys.

Eventually these guys grow up and start with the more profitable stuff such as cocaine & mdma. Next step is to start ripping off other criminals, threatening local businessmen who dont want to hide your cocaine in their fruit imports...

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by jabiko »

hans1729 wrote: post #65
Semaphor wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wording: Germany will not legalise Cannabis. Maybe it will be decriminalized, but there is basically no chance of legalisation (too complex/expensive of a process). Source?

I was told so from a credible source a couple years ago. What I can recall: legalisation would entail complex legal work, to a degree where that option is essentially not on the table. This is supported by the fact that "Legalisierung" is not part of the political language wrt topic, instead they refer to "Kontrollierte Abgabe" (~'controlled distribution').

> I was told so from a credible source a couple years ago

I'm not sure if you have noticed it but there where elections last year and the new coalition that formed has the legalization of cannabis as one of its official goals. Your "credible sources" might have been right a few years ago, but the political landscape has changed.

> This is supported by the fact that "Legalisierung" is not part of the political language wrt topic

Of course it is. The expert consolidation which is part of the creation of new law has just concluded. Now the federal ministry of health will create a draft law and publish it by the end of the year.

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Post by Tade0 »

rbinv wrote: post #61
Tade0 wrote: post #58

My high school classmate and, coincidentally, my SO's friend from college is currently doing time for "possession of large amounts of marijuana" - 19g to be specific. He used to be a local weed dealer and while he knew what he was getting into and was consciously breaking the law at the time, after his first arrest a few years ago he stopped and got a regular job. He only got involved with the court again because one…

What's the state where this happened?

Not in the US. Poland.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by Findecanor »

rsynnott wrote: post #67
Findecanor wrote: post #59

I find it crazy to decriminalise a drug in smoked form. It is often through second-hand smoke in social situations that people get addicted to a smoked drug before they start using it themselves. I'm afraid that that would lead to more addiction. Personally, I don't have anything against it being ingested in other forms: such as "magic" brownies or vaping that don't affect other people around you.

> It is through second-hand smoke that people get addicted to a smoked drug before they start using it themselves Eh? No, that's not generally the major concern about passive smoking; not sure where you got that from.

Not being what more people are concerned about does not mean that it does not happen. Although, I'll concede that cannabis is much less addictive compared to tobacco, for which this is how most smokers are made.

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Post by CoastalCoder »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #37
kennyadam wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strongly agree. As the THC percentage has increased, so has my anxiety when I smoke it. If I go out of my way to find lower quality weed, I enjoy it much more.

You strongly agree that they should regulate weed to be weaker so that you don't have to check potency before purchase? ok

I didn't get that from the GP comment.

IIUC, they're just saying that they prefer less potency, but have trouble finding it in the current market.

That doesn't necessarily mean they want only weaker weed to be sold.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by lbotos »

numerik_meister wrote: post #74
darkerside wrote: post #55

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s/*/That's interesting. I've never thought about what positive effects there might be. Can you expand?/g

I did not intend to ask a question. I know for sure that a lot of potheads really want to push their recreational drug as a miracle do all drug, while ignoring all the negative effects. The negative effects are well documented science. The positive effects are all vaporous claims from questionable studies. Really goes to show the objectivity of HN, that I get downvoted for this.

You are getting downvoted for your dogmatic and set in your ways views. HN is a place for curiosity and your responses are not increasing curiosity they are closing it off.

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Post by alar44 »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #27
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #20

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Hopefully the canabis producers will see the low (by todays standards) THC level weed as having its own niche and market it accordingly. Like 'light beer'.

I wonder how alcohol would look of people were so incompetent that they would drink vodka by the pint, like beer! Seriously, if you smoke a joint of high-grade then you're doing it wrong.

Um, seriously, I like smoking joints, but I can't because the shit around these days is so sticky and potent.

It's as if the only thing available is vodka, but I'd like a beer. Drinking less vodka doesn't make it a beer. They're completely different things.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by hobs »

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #36
wishfish wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do weed shops in legal states not have "light" options? Seems weird if they didn't, but I guess that might be a side effect of recent legalization. That the heavy stuff sells better to consumers who used to take whatever they could find back in the black market days. Anyways, I'm asking because I unfortunately live in a state where it's still illegal.

Generally they do not. The ones that are also medical dispensaries are more likely to but it isn’t a guarantee.

Most California dispensaries I have been to absolutely have low dosage 5mg options, they also stock 100mg options, but stores listen to the market and stock based on what they can get and what people want.

It was very typical to see older folks and very light smokers to request the smaller dosages. They also seemed to trend towards vapes in the younger lighter smokers because the dosage can be fairly small.

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