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CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by _Adam »

bergenty wrote: post #8
Closi wrote: post #6

Call me skeptical, but looking at that photograph it looks nothing like something I want to put in my eyes. This product is way too much of a moonshot - the product is nowhere near ready for consumers, the technology doesn't appear to be there, and I can't imagine them being able to release anything other than a tech demo for many years. There is a reason that all the research in contact lenses to date has been to ma…

They have a functioning prototype. Who are you and why does your opinion matter? (I’m just sick of skepticism automatically being associated with intelligence).

They have flexible PCB on a contact lens, and an anecdote by the CEO. "Functioning" is too generous.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by lttlrck »

hinkley wrote: post #60
echelon wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LASIK is a one and done operation performed under the careful supervision of a doctor, and it has been tried and tested hundreds of thousands of times. The probability of failure for this device is nonzero and and increases the longer you wear it. The failure modes are potentially disastrous, and there's likely no medical personnel nearby to intervene.

And it really is one and done. As in, they won't do it a second time, and your eyes are likely to change again in 10-20 years. For sure you all are going to have a conversation about reading glasses when you turn 40.

my eye doctor told me not to bother because chances are as I get older my eyes will natural start to go long sighted, and that'll cancel out my shortsightedness. If I had LASIK I would definitely end up needing reading glasses...

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by ckw »

LooseMarmoset wrote: post #56
birdman3131 wrote: post #41

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Anecdotal but lasik seriously messed with my dads eyesight for over a year. And he drove an OTR truck (at night quite a bit). Had he been aware how bad it was and that it only lasted 10 years or so he said he would have stuck to glasses.

I had lasik in 1999. I was legally blind (uncorrected) in my left eye, and needed a pretty serious correction in my right eye. After lasik, my vision was 20/15 (left) and 20/10 (right). Now, in 2022, I still have no need of glasses, although I'd say my vision has degraded somewhat - still good enough to pass the driver exam uncorrected, however. Night vision is objectively worse after lasik. Poorer light sensitivity,…

When I looked into it a couple years ago, around 1% of procedures resulted in markedly diminished quality of life, with the most extreme cases regularly leading to the suicide of the patient, so I decided against it. Periodically I look back on the decision, and feel a great sense of relief. I count it among the best I have made.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by 0n34n7 »

charcircuit wrote: post #58
Aeolun wrote: post #33

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> IT will be nearly impossible to see the display outdoors. There’s probably something to be said for having 100 nits right on your eyeball.

Why does the location matter? If its 10k on your eyeball or 10k from across the room there is the same amount of light entering your eye.

Unless the one across the room is a laser, it does matter.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by aeturnum »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #47

My dream application: Google maps hud for when I go motorcycling. Right now the options are 1) Mount an arm to the handlebar and risk my phone detaching or breaking in a crash 2) phone is in my pocket so I can hear instructions, but not see the screen. having my phone in my jacket pocket, but transmitting to my contact lens would be pretty great.

There are several companies that make motorcycle huds that integrate with helmets.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by balaji1 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #42
balaji1 wrote: post #39

Here's an idea for a AR device: It will be a wearable glass like Google Glass - it holds majority of the processors, sensors, battery and networking radio. This wearable can be built to very high quality today. Now for overlaying AR content - Use a low power laser (mounted on the frame) to project on the retina directly. This is the harder unsolved tech. Low power laser would project a monochrome image as in the cont…

Battery life killed google glass. Even very weak lasers are probably not good to shine all day into an eye.

Then more compute has to be moved off the wearable. And bulkier wearable for bigger battery. Maybe the retina is sensitive enough for really low power lasers. But contact lens seems more complex tho.

Also Google Glass probably had other problems, it was ahead of time. And it was not really AR, you had to focus on the image inside the glass or the outside world.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by d--b »

> His comments on the experience were pretty succinct: "After completing preclinical testing and mitigating potential safety risks, I wore Mojo Lens," Perkins said in a blog post. "Much to my delight, I found I could interact with a compass to find my bearings, view images, and use an on-screen teleprompter to read a surprising but familiar quote. I experienced firsthand the future with Invisible Computing ... Wearing the lens was inspiring. Seeing the future literally put me at a loss for words."

So right now, he is able to see some stuff. That’s already quite impressive, but yes I think we’re far from AR

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by charcircuit »

0n34n7 wrote: post #64
charcircuit wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does the location matter? If its 10k on your eyeball or 10k from across the room there is the same amount of light entering your eye.

Unless the one across the room is a laser, it does matter.

Are you saying that shining a laser from across the room is safer than from right in front of your eye?

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

bergenty wrote: post #14
nwiswell wrote: post #11

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I'm sympathetic to the skepticism overdose, but ultimately this is a fallacious appeal to authority. GP makes good points. Even the Google/Verily glucose contact lens didn't work out and this is an order of magnitude more complicated. Do we really believe that the deal breaker for Google Glass was just that it made you look like a dork? Because that is the only problem the contact lens seems to solve, and it introduc…

In my opinion, the contact lenses solve a whole lot of issues. Invisible to people around you, literally captures the entirety of your retina, no motion sickness, higher fidelity and did I mention completely invisible to everyone around you making uptake on this seamless.

You know what contacts don’t solve? Shoving your finger into your eye, cleanliness and fatigue.

I stuck with glasses precisely because I didn’t want to deal with keeping contacts clean, shoving things in my eyes everyday, and retaining the ability to just pop them off and ignore the world.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by pmontra »

nwiswell wrote: post #11
bergenty wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have a functioning prototype. Who are you and why does your opinion matter? (I’m just sick of skepticism automatically being associated with intelligence).

I'm sympathetic to the skepticism overdose, but ultimately this is a fallacious appeal to authority. GP makes good points. Even the Google/Verily glucose contact lens didn't work out and this is an order of magnitude more complicated. Do we really believe that the deal breaker for Google Glass was just that it made you look like a dork? Because that is the only problem the contact lens seems to solve, and it introduc…

If I remember well the backslash about Google Glass was the camera. People didn't want Glasses inside their shops or generally around them. A camera inside a phone that one has to explicitly point and shoot was and is OK. A kind of hidden camera was not.

Contact lenses solve a number of problems especially against headsets. They create others with the interference with vision correction devices but at least one could wear prescription glasses or sunglasses. BTW, I wore contact lenses for about 20 years, then suddenly couldn't wear them anymore and went back to glasses.

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