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Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by diffeomorphism »

jakear wrote: post #54
noirbot wrote: post #40

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I dunno, if you haven't run into audio or video interference on a wired device, you're lucky or have quality cables. I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones or had nearby electrical currents induce an annoying buzz in a microphone or distort a video signal.

> I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones Not exactly the same, but makes me reminisce the days of the iPod nano. It offered FM radio using the headphone cables as an antenna. I haven’t seen that supported anywhere since, which is a shame because I’d really like to get local stations on my phone.

> I haven’t seen that supported anywhere since,

I had that come with a cheap motorola phone (3 years ago or so)

https://www.motorola-support.com/uk-en/?page=topic/applicati...

So not ubiquitous but not that rare either.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by radley »

deviantbit wrote: post #88
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

I have never experienced this problem at all. I have MX Keys, MX Mouse and Airpod Pro's.

Same here. M1 Mac Mini with an MX Master 3.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by helmholtz »

least wrote: post #169
bmitc wrote: post #108

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Did those headphones cost more or less than AirPods? Somehow, musicians and producers have worked for decades with wired headphones just fine. Beyerdynamic headphones can go for less than $200 and have a long straight cord or a coiled cord that stays out of the way.

Musicians work with wired headphones because they largely have to, not because it's intrinsically better. You don't even need to be a musician or producer to experience the drawbacks being attached to a cable can have. It's just different sets of compromises.

It is intrinsically better though. Wired sound infinitely nicer sounding, and with much lower latency. Will we ever have a day when wireless will be sufficiently low latency?

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by ta8903 »

jakear wrote: post #54
noirbot wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, if you haven't run into audio or video interference on a wired device, you're lucky or have quality cables. I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones or had nearby electrical currents induce an annoying buzz in a microphone or distort a video signal.

> I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones Not exactly the same, but makes me reminisce the days of the iPod nano. It offered FM radio using the headphone cables as an antenna. I haven’t seen that supported anywhere since, which is a shame because I’d really like to get local stations on my phone.

I know you have a bunch of responses already but I got to say this, every single phone (dumb and smart) that I've used or seen used by my immediate family and friends has had this feature, I'm more susprised by the implication that there are phones that don't!

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by Marsymars »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #94
SECProto wrote: post #36

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My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

There are definitely some asterisks there. :) I have a pair of desktop speakers that have both a USB input (to an onboard DAC) and an analog input; originally, I had the USB input connected to an iMac and used the analog input to plug into my work laptop. Recently, I swapped the iMac for a Mac Studio and a Studio Display, and figured that I could just unplug the Thunderbolt cable to the display from the computer and…

I have a MacBook with a single-cable USB-C dock + audio cable. The Mac DAC is notably better than the DAC on most (possibly all) docks.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by Marsymars »

esperent wrote: post #121
SECProto wrote: post #36

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My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Living in a country where ground wires are not installed as standard, oh you are so wrong. Anything that has a wall plug carries crazy levels of background hum to any audio equipment I plug into it. I'm sure there is something I could buy to fix that (I can't fix the electrics though as I'm renting). On the other hand, instead of doing loads of research and buying new equipment, I can just connect my headphones or sp…

I have a pair of wireless RF headphones. They’re awesome - the base connects via optical, so no interference of any sort, the signal range is fantastic, the lag is minuscule, the pairing with the base is always automatic and perfect, and they take rechargeable AAA batteries that can recharge within the headphones when they’re on the base, or can be easily replaced.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by Marsymars »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #90
ubertaco wrote: post #76

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I've also found that if I used the Logitech "unifying" adapter, I _still_ had significant 2.4Ghz spectrum interference -- the Logitech adapter was causing my bluetooth headset (also in the 2.4Ghz spectrum) to have significant connectivity issues, and was also causing interference with some game controllers that operated on the 2.4Ghz spectrum in the same room. The Logitech devices connected to that dongle (an MX Mast…

I don't understand how Logitech mice are so popular given how frequently they fail due to switch problems. Everyone I know, from casual users to gamers, has had problems with logitech mouse button failures. Sometimes within months of purchase, even on their high end gaming mice that cost well north of $100, the buttons will stop working or start double-clicking.

Pretty much all my heavily used mice from any brand has eventually failed due to switch problems.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by grumpyprole »

SECProto wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Not always true. The USB-C port is already loose on my Android phone after only 1 year of use. I cannot use it with a DAC on the go for music, as the slightest wobble will cause a disconnect. I never had this issue with headphone jacks, but even so, wireless has some advantages.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by LinAGKar »

grumpyprole wrote: post #178
SECProto wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Not always true. The USB-C port is already loose on my Android phone after only 1 year of use. I cannot use it with a DAC on the go for music, as the slightest wobble will cause a disconnect. I never had this issue with headphone jacks, but even so, wireless has some advantages.

Try cleaning lint out of the USB port

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by sundvor »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #90
ubertaco wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've also found that if I used the Logitech "unifying" adapter, I _still_ had significant 2.4Ghz spectrum interference -- the Logitech adapter was causing my bluetooth headset (also in the 2.4Ghz spectrum) to have significant connectivity issues, and was also causing interference with some game controllers that operated on the 2.4Ghz spectrum in the same room. The Logitech devices connected to that dongle (an MX Mast…

I don't understand how Logitech mice are so popular given how frequently they fail due to switch problems. Everyone I know, from casual users to gamers, has had problems with logitech mouse button failures. Sometimes within months of purchase, even on their high end gaming mice that cost well north of $100, the buttons will stop working or start double-clicking.

That's the cheaper Chinese Omron switches. They are complete rubbish for the price point, in a Logitech mouse, as you can't easily swap them out.

Asus are now selling mice with hot swappable switches. I made the (sorry) switch myself after my G903 died, ie I couldn't hold the buttons steady.

I see now that I should be able to source Japanese Omron switches that might be a bit better; the replacement in the G903 requires some patience and (to be developed in my case) skill, but it's not like I can break it any further. Will grab extra spares for my Chakram X at the same time.

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