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Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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esperent wrote: post #121
SECProto wrote: post #36

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My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Living in a country where ground wires are not installed as standard, oh you are so wrong. Anything that has a wall plug carries crazy levels of background hum to any audio equipment I plug into it. I'm sure there is something I could buy to fix that (I can't fix the electrics though as I'm renting). On the other hand, instead of doing loads of research and buying new equipment, I can just connect my headphones or sp…

I've lived in a country without ground wires (japan), and used desktop speakers and headphones without issue.

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lghh wrote: post #120
bmitc wrote: post #108

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Did those headphones cost more or less than AirPods? Somehow, musicians and producers have worked for decades with wired headphones just fine. Beyerdynamic headphones can go for less than $200 and have a long straight cord or a coiled cord that stays out of the way.

I personally wouldn't want to run in those headphones.

I never want to run in any headphones. I do not like music while running.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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wvenable wrote: post #101
SECProto wrote: post #36

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My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

I have terrible connectivity and interference with wires! As soon as I stand up my headphones become violently disconnected from my computer. Cables also interfere with each other and all the other items on my desk.

My cables are all routed in a bundle, no hasle. I can't keep the headphones on when I walk away, it's true.

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Post by SECProto »

powersnail wrote: post #104
SECProto wrote: post #36

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My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

It certainly does with my speaker. I can't charge the Anker speaker while using AUX, because it just sounds like a broken TV shouting at me.

My speakers and headphones don't need to charge, which eliminates that opportunity for a ground loop.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

SECProto wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Plenty of intereference from door handles.

Backpacks are also a recurring offender.

Many pieces of clothing... or objects you regularly traverse, can become a wire trap.

Those objects are the bait & fishing rod, and your wires are the fish :)

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by SECProto »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #94
SECProto wrote: post #36

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My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

There are definitely some asterisks there. :) I have a pair of desktop speakers that have both a USB input (to an onboard DAC) and an analog input; originally, I had the USB input connected to an iMac and used the analog input to plug into my work laptop. Recently, I swapped the iMac for a Mac Studio and a Studio Display, and figured that I could just unplug the Thunderbolt cable to the display from the computer and…

Sounds to me like a ground loop. so you're right, I have had that issue once in my car (different grounding potential between the cigarette lighter output and the stereo aux input)

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by rodgerd »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #21
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

Is this a flaw/weakness in the Bluetooth spec, or is one of these products misbehaving in a way that means it should have its Bluetooth qualification revoked?

It's pretty suspicious that people can't reproduce the problem with other products; I kind of wonder if Logitech have been upping the power on their devices to overcome 2.4 Ghz congestion.

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Post by macNchz »

noirbot wrote: post #40
SECProto wrote: post #36

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My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

I dunno, if you haven't run into audio or video interference on a wired device, you're lucky or have quality cables. I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones or had nearby electrical currents induce an annoying buzz in a microphone or distort a video signal.

It’s been almost 15 years but I do remember always knowing when my pre-smartphone cell phone was about to ring. It’d make my stereo system buzz loudly moments beforehand.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by rodgerd »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #90
ubertaco wrote: post #76

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I've also found that if I used the Logitech "unifying" adapter, I _still_ had significant 2.4Ghz spectrum interference -- the Logitech adapter was causing my bluetooth headset (also in the 2.4Ghz spectrum) to have significant connectivity issues, and was also causing interference with some game controllers that operated on the 2.4Ghz spectrum in the same room. The Logitech devices connected to that dongle (an MX Mast…

I don't understand how Logitech mice are so popular given how frequently they fail due to switch problems. Everyone I know, from casual users to gamers, has had problems with logitech mouse button failures. Sometimes within months of purchase, even on their high end gaming mice that cost well north of $100, the buttons will stop working or start double-clicking.

Not a mouse, but there really is no competitor for the MX Ergo. I think this may be a problem in a few niches.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by SECProto »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #135
SECProto wrote: post #36

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My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Plenty of intereference from door handles. Backpacks are also a recurring offender. Many pieces of clothing... or objects you regularly traverse, can become a wire trap. Those objects are the bait & fishing rod, and your wires are the fish :)

Bit of observer bias here, as I don't listen to headphones while out and about.
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