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Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by wvenable »

SECProto wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

I have terrible connectivity and interference with wires!

As soon as I stand up my headphones become violently disconnected from my computer. Cables also interfere with each other and all the other items on my desk.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by ungamedplayer »

julianlam wrote: post #15
frankfrank13 wrote: post #2

If you buy a bluetooth mouse (and seemingly keyboard) from a company known for their bluetooth peripherals they will not be compatible with the single most popular peripheral in the world. I'm shocked this has gone on this long.

Why are you shocked? In the capitalistic society there is no reason for Logitech to ensure compatibility with airpods. No squeaky wheel? No grease. In fact, they probably bet on users giving up and buying the Logitech equivalent wireless earbuds.

There is a non zero percentage who simply dont buy apple gear to start with. The apple airpods userlist is a sub percentage of the apple users, so its probably not eating their bottom line as hard as HN users make it out to be.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by wvenable »

toast0 wrote: post #74
frankfrank13 wrote: post #2

If you buy a bluetooth mouse (and seemingly keyboard) from a company known for their bluetooth peripherals they will not be compatible with the single most popular peripheral in the world. I'm shocked this has gone on this long.

Is logitech known for their bluetooth peripherals? I know them for their remotes (which was an acquisition and recently shut down, boo) and for input devices, but they do wired and propreitary wireless and bluetooth. After several attempts at using bluetooth, I only use it where necessary, which is interacting between phones and cars. No mouse could be good enough that I would suffer through bluetooth to use it; I'd…

> Is logitech known for their bluetooth peripherals?

Yes. The sell many models of bluetooth keyboards and mice for almost as long as Bluetooth has existed.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by powersnail »

SECProto wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

It certainly does with my speaker. I can't charge the Anker speaker while using AUX, because it just sounds like a broken TV shouting at me.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by ungamedplayer »

Macha wrote: post #22
darkteflon wrote: post #16

Anecdata, but I’ve had a terrible experience with Logitech mice on all sorts of Macs over the years - both Intel and Apple Silicon. Bluetooth is almost always a non-starter. The Unifying dongle works, but you’ll need to keep it physically close to the mouse. Unfortunately, Logitech also makes my favourite mouse - the light-weight G Pro X wireless. Their software is atrocious, too. Steermouse to the rescue, thankfully…

Anecdata here also, but I've got a logitech mice and formerly had a logitech headset that had no issues connecting to a mac with bluetooth.

Anecdata here: I had to write a tool to reload the mac bluetooth kernel module once a month because it was so bad.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by dmix »

ungamedplayer wrote: post #95
noirbot wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, if you haven't run into audio or video interference on a wired device, you're lucky or have quality cables. I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones or had nearby electrical currents induce an annoying buzz in a microphone or distort a video signal.

Get a ferrite ring for your cable, solves more of these issues than you'd imagine. Or a clip on, something like this : https://www.cablechick.com.au/cables/ferrite-core-rfi-and-em...

I had no idea these existed. This is going to moving make my tube amp so much less annoying. Thank you.

https://resources.altium.com/p/how-do-ferrite-beads-work-and...

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by bmitc »

wvenable wrote: post #101
SECProto wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

I have terrible connectivity and interference with wires! As soon as I stand up my headphones become violently disconnected from my computer. Cables also interfere with each other and all the other items on my desk.

Did those headphones cost more or less than AirPods? Somehow, musicians and producers have worked for decades with wired headphones just fine. Beyerdynamic headphones can go for less than $200 and have a long straight cord or a coiled cord that stays out of the way.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by badlucklottery »

can16358p wrote: post #9

What's the problem of Logitech with Bluetooth? Unrelated to this issue, I bought a Bluetooth audio-to-analog out dongle to stream to my speakers, only to find out that I could not disconnect any paired device from it. It automatically connected to any paired device if the other device's Bluetooth is on. The moment I forcefully disconnect it forcefully connected again. I searched the web to see others' exact same issu…

> What's the problem of Logitech with Bluetooth?

From what I've seen, Logitech devices seem to have the transmit power set very high. Like use-it-from-multiple-rooms-away high. I have no idea why they do this, but it tends to make my PCs take a bit longer to detect other Bluetooth devices in the area. But not to the point that they won't connect or function. This includes pretty janky stuff like my hand-built keyboard that uses nice!nano boards.

It seems that combining this with the AirPods' existing issues in 2.4GHz-heavy environments and you've got a recipe for connectivity problems.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by al_borland »

alvarop wrote: post #39
al_borland wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also annoying that the unifying receiver doesn't work with a Thunderbolt dock. I tried using it for a while and got a lot of lag and stuttering. It was really bad. So now I have a Thunderbolt dock that everything else uses, and a single USB-C to USB-A adapter hanging off the laptop just for the precious unifying receiver. I'd be less annoyed if it was USB-C plugged in directly, but still not happy. Previously I used…

Try connecting it to a USB2 port, use a USB extender, or a USB2.0 hub. This is a know issue with USB3 ports: https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/327216.pdf

Fascinating. I'll have to see if I have an old USB extender lying around in my big box of old cables. Thanks.
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