Could this just be a simple case of GPS jamming?
seems like it was a cellular dead zone or a nearby cell tower was getting maintained. I think these cars rely on constant connection to a central server.
Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
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#22all of this time and money wasted on driverless cars has been a complete failure. companies and cities should be investing their time into improving public transportation and designing our cities to be more walkable and make alternate modes of transportation more feasible. the US culture of using a car for everyday transportation is fucking insane, wasteful, and contributes to the rising cost of living across the US…
Cities cannot easily be "redesigned". Infrastructure exists and you can't just refactor neighborhoods like software. Autonomous vehicles are an enormous market and well worth the investment.
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#23all of this time and money wasted on driverless cars has been a complete failure. companies and cities should be investing their time into improving public transportation and designing our cities to be more walkable and make alternate modes of transportation more feasible. the US culture of using a car for everyday transportation is fucking insane, wasteful, and contributes to the rising cost of living across the US…
Cities cannot easily be "redesigned". Infrastructure exists and you can't just refactor neighborhoods like software. Autonomous vehicles are an enormous market and well worth the investment.
AI is an extremely difficult challenge imposed by the current constraint. Change the constraint, then you don't need an AI to drive cars.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Background: I formerly worked at Cruise and specifically wrote large parts of the GNSS data pipeline. I would be surprised if that were the cause. Fine localization should be able to resolve without GNSS input (with caveats) and there are specific tested requirements to be able to tolerate a certain number of minutes of outage even in the absence of LIDAR before position accuracy degrades beyond acceptable limits. It…
Could this be due to bad mapping data at that particular location? Even if it was, wouldn’t they be able to pull over at a safe location with what they perceive in real time?
This account wouldn't be difficult to deanonymize, so I'll refrain from speculating. I don't know the actual cause.
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#25> Le dernier titulaire d’un permis de conduire est déjà né X Doubt
plot twist : in 20 years the only car anybody drives is the Citroen Ami which doesn't require a driving license in France since it's technically a "quadricycle" and not a "car".
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cities cannot easily be "redesigned". Infrastructure exists and you can't just refactor neighborhoods like software. Autonomous vehicles are an enormous market and well worth the investment.
Except, you sorta can. See "superblocks" in places like Barcelona
Barcelona is laid out entirely differently from almost every American city.
What's a superblock in Houston gonna do?
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#27all of this time and money wasted on driverless cars has been a complete failure. companies and cities should be investing their time into improving public transportation and designing our cities to be more walkable and make alternate modes of transportation more feasible. the US culture of using a car for everyday transportation is fucking insane, wasteful, and contributes to the rising cost of living across the US…
What, it's not insane that we've opted to instead throw massive amounts of computing resources at mountains of data to train statistical models to drive cars instead of not bending to the whims of NIMBYs holding onto the houses they bought decades ago so they can be buried like Egyptian pharoahs with their hoarded wealth? /s
Re: Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
#28all of this time and money wasted on driverless cars has been a complete failure. companies and cities should be investing their time into improving public transportation and designing our cities to be more walkable and make alternate modes of transportation more feasible. the US culture of using a car for everyday transportation is fucking insane, wasteful, and contributes to the rising cost of living across the US…
Cities cannot easily be "redesigned". Infrastructure exists and you can't just refactor neighborhoods like software. Autonomous vehicles are an enormous market and well worth the investment.
I mean refactoring production software is no easy feat either
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#29all of this time and money wasted on driverless cars has been a complete failure. companies and cities should be investing their time into improving public transportation and designing our cities to be more walkable and make alternate modes of transportation more feasible. the US culture of using a car for everyday transportation is fucking insane, wasteful, and contributes to the rising cost of living across the US…
Cities cannot easily be "redesigned". Infrastructure exists and you can't just refactor neighborhoods like software. Autonomous vehicles are an enormous market and well worth the investment.
> Cities cannot easily be "redesigned".
Tell that to Jersey City:
Transport infrastructure in cities absolutely can be redesigned quickly, if you’re willing to take a quick and dirty approach in the short term. Which is usually enough when it comes to influencing people’s behavior; it doesn’t have to be perfect, it just has to be functional and feel safe.
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#30all of this time and money wasted on driverless cars has been a complete failure. companies and cities should be investing their time into improving public transportation and designing our cities to be more walkable and make alternate modes of transportation more feasible. the US culture of using a car for everyday transportation is fucking insane, wasteful, and contributes to the rising cost of living across the US…
Public transportation could take the form of government-owned fleets of self-driving electric cars :)
I love going directly from point A to B in a private space and I'm not ashamed to admit it. This provides value to my life in the form of comfort and convenience, factors that are so frequently waved away as irrelevant by anyone screaming "car culture".
However, it's admittedly obscene that for this privledge, my vehicle sits unused most of the time. I'd be more than happy to have a non-owned electric vehicle show up when I need it, take me to my destination, and then proceed to help someone else with their journey.