Modern city dwellers have lost about half their gut microbes

Post by hprotagonist » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 11:08 PM UTC

starwind wrote: post #105

msbarnett wrote: post #91

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> People are becoming even lactose intolerant. This isn't new, and certainly isn't some crisis of the last 100 years. Historically only a minority of the planet has ever been lactase persistent into adulthood. It's a well-understood genetic trait, not some product of gut microbes.

You are correct. It's likely that the majority of humans have been lactose intolerant for human history. It's primarily people of Northern European descent that are not lactose intolerant, but lactose intolerance is very common outside of those groups

Post by theonething » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 11:10 PM UTC

woodruffw wrote: post #77

prometheus76 wrote: post #44

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There's a guy (Jasper Lawrence, who had a horrible allergy problem) had heard of a study where they were testing to see if allergies was related to parasites. He was rejected from the study, so, long story short, he ended up flying to northern Africa and walking around barefoot to get hookworm. He now monitors and manages his hookworm infection with low doses of anti-parasite medication, and he sells soil infected wi…

Please, for the love of all that is good and holy, do not give yourself hookworms.

Post by bobthepanda » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 11:12 PM UTC

amarshall wrote: post #57

asdff wrote: post #45

Pretty much every culture around the world 100 years ago had some staple fermented food. Nowadays, a lot of people in western culture at least outright refuse yogurt or other fermented foods like saurkraut or pickled cabbage that used to be staples in these people's ancestor's diets a few generations ago. People are becoming even lactose intolerant. You have to fertilize your microbes so to speak and eat these sorts…

> You have to fertilize your microbes so to speak and eat these sorts of foods [citation needed]. It seems unlikely that fermented foods are not consumed in urban areas at all. I’ve also no idea if other primates consume any fermented foods, but I’d guess probably not. > People are becoming even lactose intolerant Do any other primates drink milk after infancy? If not, that’s not really a valid concern in the context…

Post by onkoe » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 11:18 PM UTC

starwind wrote: post #109

digitcatphd wrote: post #87

I think the consensus is nobody really knows and nutritional science is largely trendy pseudoscience…

I've always been shocked at how crappy the research into nutrition is and how there's very little consensus beyond "vegetables are good" and how shoddy a lot of the professional training is for dieticians. Nearly everybody eats nearly every day, how have we not figured this out?

Post by easytiger » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 11:30 PM UTC

dannyw wrote: post #99

msbarnett wrote: post #91

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> People are becoming even lactose intolerant. This isn't new, and certainly isn't some crisis of the last 100 years. Historically only a minority of the planet has ever been lactase persistent into adulthood. It's a well-understood genetic trait, not some product of gut microbes.

You can think of this being evolutionary beneficial, if some milk is bad, the whole village don't all get sick. Also a possible reason for why people have different taste preferences.