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TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by powerapple »

upupandup wrote: post #5

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

- biometrics

video analysis

- words are mentioned in the video

video content analysis

^^^^ these are for videos uploaded, which I do not upload any

- wifi and location

probably user modeling for recommendation

for Location I always say NO

- contacts

I always say NO to any app

Basically it collects very little information from me. I did register an account though, otherwise it wouldn't collect any

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by leaflets2 »

sakutea wrote: post #295
upupandup wrote: post #5

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

maybe you need to ask the President of US why.

TikTok is a Chinese company not a US company

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by leaflets2 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #155
theplumber wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like google, twitter, facebook, instagram, apple and more.

You keep jumping into every convo with this weak retort. Google and Apple aren't rounding up Muslims into camps.

I think some of the people here are paid by the CCP to try to spread propaganda? Maybe not GP but generally ... The 50 Cent Army

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by vore »

maccolgan wrote: post #297
vore wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I think they're saying Facebook is bad but having an entity tied to a not-so-friendly government do it on a much larger scale is worse.

There's incredible amount of misplaced belief on HN that every HN reader considers the US government friendly.

I didn't say the US government was friendly, and I certainly don't think that either. But if we're talking about social networks surveilling people in the US, the US government doing it is bad and an adversarial foreign government doing it is worse.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by Sebb767 »

andreilys wrote: post #269
Sebb767 wrote: post #173

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Depends on what you do. As long as you don't plan on visiting China, them knowing your sexual orientation, whether you do drugs is or where you were is pretty irrelevant, while it might be quite interesting for you government (and therefore Google, if you're in the US).

Except when it does matter, say for example you become a politican or work in a corporation that has valuable IP. All of the sudden, private details about you can be weaponized and used as blackmail in order to carry out the will of a state actor. It really doesn't take much creativity to think about how this information can be weaponized against you.

That's why I said

> Depends on what you do.

It's not great if a foreign intelligence has data on you, but depending on your threat scenario, it _might_ be better than your government having it.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by tk75x »

irthomasthomas wrote: post #181
generj wrote: post #148

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But couldn’t that simply be explained by GOP counties applying for less aid? So long as every county could receive funds equally, the fact some received less isn’t at all damning.

"Zuckerberg and Chan tapped prominent Republican election lawyer Michael Toner to review the grants CTCL awarded last year to counties and other jurisdictions across the country.” Toner, a former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, “discovered that more Republican jurisdictions, defined as municipalities that voted for Trump in 2020, applied for and received grants from CTCL" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/p…

This would result in exactly the disparity in "dollars per vote(r)" that was pointed out above. Because if more people apply for and get the same amount of grants as a smaller group of people, then the former group will have less dollars per individual.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by piyh »

hotpotamus wrote: post #115
piyh wrote: post #97

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Meta is different because of the US fails as a state, they lose. China doesn't. Meta might still be a shitty company, but their incentives are not to gather intelligence against US citizens that could be used to conduct cyber attacks or plan for military operations.

What does Meta lose if the US fails as a state? I'm sure there are some downsides but isn't it a global company anyway?

They lose half their revenue

https://s21.q4cdn.com/399680738/files/doc_financials/2022/q1...

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by vorpalhex »

leaflets2 wrote: post #323
vorpalhex wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You keep jumping into every convo with this weak retort. Google and Apple aren't rounding up Muslims into camps.

I think some of the people here are paid by the CCP to try to spread propaganda? Maybe not GP but generally ... The 50 Cent Army

In general, accusing someone of being a shill is a poor move - even if you are right.

Instead I would encourage you to follow up with their comments and guide the argument back to it's basic facts - like that China is rounding up Muslims in camps and may be engaging in forced sterilization, and that allowing TikTok may not align with freedom.

Obviously don't spam or just blindly become a shill yourself, but just make the shilling activity do the opposite of what a shill might want.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by hotpotamus »

piyh wrote: post #327
hotpotamus wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does Meta lose if the US fails as a state? I'm sure there are some downsides but isn't it a global company anyway?

They lose half their revenue https://s21.q4cdn.com/399680738/files/doc_financials/2022/q1...

I presume the Neo-Confederate states of America or whatever will still be happy to do business - probably with fewer regulations even.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by throwaway29812 »

CyanBird wrote: post #319
throwaway29812 wrote: post #142

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You can find individual cases of data misuse all day long. Comparing those awful but isolated cases to a large, purposeful, systemic, government run system of internment is absurd. https://thediplomat.com/2022/05/xinjiang-police-files-show-x...

> individual Except for you know, the fact that these are not individual cases.... And that as you might know, courts indeed form part of "the government", if anything courts, be it tribal or others are the original form of government

Does this program exist on a national scale, does it affect millions of people? If not, the comparison is absurd.
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