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TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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> let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way For more context, from: https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/zuck-bucks-consp... > He offered nearly half a billion dollars in grants to any election official who wanted one, as long as those officials spent it on what a lot of people would consider mundane essentials: b…

"Zuckerberg and Chan tapped prominent Republican election lawyer Michael Toner to review the grants CTCL awarded last year to counties and other jurisdictions across the country.” Toner, a former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, “discovered that more Republican jurisdictions, defined as municipalities that voted for Trump in 2020, applied for and received grants from CTCL" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/p…

>The group that got the bulk of Mr. Zuckerberg’s money — the Center for Tech and Civic Life — sent some 2,500 grants to government elections offices in 48 states. Defenders of Mr. Zuckerberg contend that more grants went to Trump areas while conveniently ignoring the fact that the vast amount of money was targeted to critically important areas for Mr. Biden. In fact, approximately 160 of the 2,500 grants were for $400,000 or more and totaled a whopping $272 million — and 92% of the money flowed to jurisdictions that Mr. Biden carried. [1]

>Much of Mr. Zuckerberg’s money is documented by CTCL’s tax filings. The January 2022 report shows grants of $860,000 to Kenosha, $1.2 million to both Green Bay and Madison, $1.7 million to Racine, and $3.4 million to Milwaukee. These five critical cities alone received about $8.5 million of the $10.1 million that flowed into Wisconsin from CTCL, and $5.1 million dollars of Mr. Zuckerberg’s money was spent in Arizona. Four difference-making counties — Maricopa, Pima, Apache and Coconino — were carried by President Biden and received nearly 76% of CTCL’s grants. This funding helped Biden grow his turnout by nearly 700,000 votes in funded counties over Hillary Clinton’s 2016 total. CTCL sent $45 million to Georgia — more than any other state in the country — and 94% of the funds went to jurisdictions carried by Mr. Biden. [1]

It is pretty clear that pushing extremely well-funded get out the vote operations in highly democrat areas in the most key swing states is enough to swing an election.

This is dangerously partisan.

[1] https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/12/mark-zucker...

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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> authoritarian regime saw facebook in 2012 and said What a weird statement. Facebook has been taking all of that data for a long time. Some of the protections in Android and iOS were specifically added to inhibit Facebook from recording the surroundings in the background. TikTok just does more of the same partly because they just have more audio and video data to work with. Remember how Uber showed how cool they can…

No, I think they're saying Facebook is bad but having an entity tied to a not-so-friendly government do it on a much larger scale is worse.

As if the U.S is a totally friendly government to the entire world ? Iraq, Afghanistan and many other countries the US destroyed would sure disagree.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

they only care about money

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#295

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

maybe you need to ask the President of US why.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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It should be unacceptable regardless of country of origin.

Stop generalizing the "country of origin" as if it does not matter like the Chinese Comunist Party isn't a threat to the world. - There will always be a ruler, and which ruler is killing, slaving, censoring and selling it's own people as meat tools for foreign companies? - China will kill, torture it's own people and their families if they think they are a thread (even if remote) to their government party (CCP). - Ch…

The social credit system has been acknowledged by multiple western media outlets to have been greatly exaggerated and misreported. [0]

To be sure, there are numerous areas in which the behavior of the Chinese government is concerning and unacceptable, but there is also an undeniable level of hysteria when it comes to China that is not applied to US Allies. (See: Saudi Arabia and the rest of the gulf states)

[0] https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system...

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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post #175

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> authoritarian regime saw facebook in 2012 and said What a weird statement. Facebook has been taking all of that data for a long time. Some of the protections in Android and iOS were specifically added to inhibit Facebook from recording the surroundings in the background. TikTok just does more of the same partly because they just have more audio and video data to work with. Remember how Uber showed how cool they can…

No, I think they're saying Facebook is bad but having an entity tied to a not-so-friendly government do it on a much larger scale is worse.

There's incredible amount of misplaced belief on HN that every HN reader considers the US government friendly.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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The Senate did something unanimously under Trump?

Multiple things were done unanimously. In 2020, several nominations along with H.R. 748. Some senators did abstain from voting, but every senator who voted did vote yes.

Yep. The issue is that unanimous votes on boring issues don’t make headlines. It’s a lot easier to make an us vs. them article successful.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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> The US has just done far worse. How many people have been killed in US wars vs. the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution? Remind me where the US has implemented a concentration camp of about a million individuals based on ethnicity alone and then continually denied its existence against overwhelming evidence from the international community. Which foreign companies did the US use spies to steal foreign IP fro…

> How many people have been killed in US wars

Easily in the millions. And that’s innocent civilians, not combatants. Not to diminish the suffering that happened there under Mao - but the lives ruined by US wars continue to add up. People are still born to this day with birth defects and cancer due to the chemical weapons we used in Vietnam, for example. And if we’re counting the 20th century, how about the fact that Hitler was inspired by America’s treatment of Native and Black people when he started the Holocaust? Eugenics got its start in the US. Genocidal forced sterilization of minorities was still happening here well into the 20th century. The list of atrocities goes on.

> Remind me where the US has implemented a concentration camp of about a million individuals based on ethnicity alone

Native Americans for the entire history of our country, until we finally put them on land that white settlers didn’t want. Japanese during WW2. Prison/torture camps all over the world during the “war on terror” which scooped up Muslims indiscriminately under the guise of fighting terror. These were all either officially denied, or admitted and openly justified at the time.

And forget corporate espionage - how about the well-known fact that US intelligence agencies have outright overthrown and assassinated democratically elected leaders all over the world? We even did it to Australia, an ostensible ally.

I’ll give you that China has a horrible record of harassing and imprisoning people who criticize their government, as well as censoring media. That’s one thing the US has going for it.

But as far as democracy goes, the things we’re talking about here - data collection, spying, extralegal evil acts committed by governments in secret - aren’t things that we get to vote on in America. Not one of us idiots arguing online has any say in what data the NSA collects and how they use it. Neither does any elected representative even bother talking about that anymore. Most of them don’t know what the NSA does, either. Them and the CIA are entirely unaccountable to democracy and that’s by design. It’s marginally better because we can at least talk about it, but that’s only because we’re powerless to stop it, so our opinion really doesn’t matter.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Like google, twitter, facebook, instagram, apple and more.

Except TikTok is operating on behalf of an authoritarian regime with no protection for human rights, freedom of speech or thought, rule of law, separation and balance of power, or any of those quaint things.

Almost all the world doesn't care about any of that when it comes to external behaviour.
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