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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by peyton »

BrainVirus wrote: post #118
phpisthebest wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow What we are seeing is the predictable result of the classic monetary models, and a rejection of Modern Monetary Theory which linked limits of government spending to the availability of real resources, like workers. Which is why you see people like The Treasury Sec saying the Economy is good because of employme…

>Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow I've heard this is a completely debunked conspiracy theory: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/04/fact-check-80-per... You see, this is why Disinformation Governance Board was a good idea.

Hahaha, good to know the fact checkers are there to tell me that no, 80% of all hard currency has not literally passed through a printing press in the last “two months.” Need a good laugh after seeing [1]. And yeah, I know most of the increase is due to an accounting change.

[1]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by babelfish »

bogwog wrote: post #95

Jetbrains doesn’t get my money because of how much of a confusing mess their product lineup is. They have a bunch of different IDEs sold separately that ultimately seem to be identical except for language support. Why isn’t language support implemented as plugins if all the IDEs share a common framework? Last I checked, it seemed like they do have an “ultimate” version with multiple language support… except that one…

IIRC IntelliJ is a superset of all their products

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by Lio »

mayama wrote: post #94
dragonelite wrote: post #61

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The language server protocol standard has really given some IDE like features to expendable text editors like Nvim and Emacs.

After using vscode for years, I've tried nvim with lunarvim starter pack and am using it more. Using vscode without mouse is always a problem even with vim plugin. On the other hand, mouse is almost useless in nvim.

Not sure why you'd say a mouse in Neovim is useless. A mouse can be very useful in both Vim and Neovim when set up correctly, it will even work across SSH.

Even just using two fingered trackpad scrolling to move the view port is something I do almost everyday without thinking about it.

If you wanted to you could also highlight text, show balloon help, select windows and tab and interact with file explorers.

Of course you can do all that very quickly with keyboard shortcuts, which is what I mostly do, but they option of the mouse is still there.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by [deleted] »

BrainVirus wrote: post #118
phpisthebest wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow What we are seeing is the predictable result of the classic monetary models, and a rejection of Modern Monetary Theory which linked limits of government spending to the availability of real resources, like workers. Which is why you see people like The Treasury Sec saying the Economy is good because of employme…

>Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow I've heard this is a completely debunked conspiracy theory: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/04/fact-check-80-per... You see, this is why Disinformation Governance Board was a good idea.

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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by gazby »

babelfish wrote: post #122
bogwog wrote: post #95

Jetbrains doesn’t get my money because of how much of a confusing mess their product lineup is. They have a bunch of different IDEs sold separately that ultimately seem to be identical except for language support. Why isn’t language support implemented as plugins if all the IDEs share a common framework? Last I checked, it seemed like they do have an “ultimate” version with multiple language support… except that one…

IIRC IntelliJ is a superset of all their products

I expect this is part of what they're talking about. "Intellj" doesn't exactly sound like it's a superset.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by mardifoufs »

moonocle wrote: post #63
f23f23f23f23f wrote: post #34

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Germany is much worse than the US. Huge inflation with a microscopic salary increase and unlike FED, European central bank doesn't do anything at all to fight inflation (except increasing interest rates to laughable 0.25% - 7x lower than in US). Basically, ECB want to devaluate Euro, so that our salaries can be even lower than in China.

Inflation in Germany is different than inflation in the US. We have huge supply side issues because of the war in Ukraine The US just printed a lot of money. They are both inflation but very different kind. In the case of US the money supply changed A LOT, while in the case of germany the cost of goods changed.

You realize the ECB has probably "created" just as much money through their sovereign bond purchases than the FED? If anything, the ECB has been much much less conservative about it's monetary policy than the FED, and that has been true for years. Just look at the rates.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by hhariri »

JustFinishedBSG wrote: post #44
moonocle wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't fire most of their staff. They closed the Russian offices and offered relocation to everyone in Russia (and many took it). I mean they were practically forced to close their Russian offices with the current political situation and war going on. The relocation process is very expensive as well as opening new offices in Europe and rehiring there as CoL and salaries in Europe are much higher.

I know they were forced. I know they did it the most humane way possible. This is precisely why I support them financially. Doesn't change the fact that they had to let go of a huge portion of their staff. Call it firing, or special unemployment operation , the result is still the same; and I can't help but notice that updates are now very, very sparse and pretty minor ( maybe its a pure coincidence because they are…

I apologise for intervening, but I believe it's necessary as this statement is not correct. We did not layoff a huge portion of our staff.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by hhariri »

202206241203 wrote: post #62
weberer wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do if you contribute to an open source project. There's also Pycharm Community edition which is available through the package manager of most Linux distros. https://www.jetbrains.com/community/opensource/#support

> They do if you contribute to an open source project. Are you sure you don't mean substantial contributions to a very popular open source project?

We support OSS independently of their popularity. If you have had issues with your project being supported (due to maybe some automated checks we've put in place to help us), please feel free to reach out to me with the details. My email is hadi at jetbrains dot com.

Thanks.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by ymolodtsov »

JustFinishedBSG wrote: post #40
Aeolun wrote: post #10

What the hell is up with prices? Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive. My cereal became 20% more expensive. Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me. And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.

> My cereal became 20% more expensive. > Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. I understand the frustration but surely you can see the causality link here? Jetbrains employees have to eat too. The individual solution is sadly for you to ask for a 20% raise and screw people down the line. Global solution would be enforced price controls, we know it works because France did it after the war, the government imposed lowe…

> Global solution would be enforced price controls, we know it works because France did it after the war, the government imposed lower prices and started selling good directly itself and France got out with a much lower inflation than other countries. That was way more complicated than you described. War-related price controls are very different because of many things, and even in countries whose territory wasn't directly affected people experienced shortages constantly.
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