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Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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The heavier IDEs are in real trouble given the impressive state of VS Code lately. I haven't found the need to reach for a bigger IDE than Code in a while and I've been perfectly productive in JS, C, Rust and Python projects lately. Do yourself a favour and try out Code for your next project.

The language server protocol standard has really given some IDE like features to expendable text editors like Nvim and Emacs.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#62
post #35

Well in advance. Thanks. By the way I think it would be nice to also have a hobbyist license option for those who barely use it and don't earn any money this way. The actual price seems almost free in terms of how much a full-time developer would earn using it yet slightly expensive for something [awesome] I only launch on some occasions a year.

They do if you contribute to an open source project. There's also Pycharm Community edition which is available through the package manager of most Linux distros. https://www.jetbrains.com/community/opensource/#support

> They do if you contribute to an open source project.

Are you sure you don't mean substantial contributions to a very popular open source project?

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#63

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USD is becoming worthless, the fed kept printing infinite money and people are sick of receiving toilet paper Also the fact that they had to fire their entire Russian R&D department, and instead rely on Westerners, they are more expensive, so they are forced to increase their price overall, that's my guess

Germany is much worse than the US. Huge inflation with a microscopic salary increase and unlike FED, European central bank doesn't do anything at all to fight inflation (except increasing interest rates to laughable 0.25% - 7x lower than in US). Basically, ECB want to devaluate Euro, so that our salaries can be even lower than in China.

Inflation in Germany is different than inflation in the US. We have huge supply side issues because of the war in Ukraine The US just printed a lot of money. They are both inflation but very different kind. In the case of US the money supply changed A LOT, while in the case of germany the cost of goods changed.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#64
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What the hell is up with prices? Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive. My cereal became 20% more expensive. Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me. And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.

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Not quite sure why your response is so energetic.

Jetbrains products were always cheap, and now they are more expensive. I never said it’s now a bad deal.

I’ve just never seen prices rise so fast. Even during the whole pandemic when China shipping basically stopped, rising prices were unnoticable.

Now prices rise more, and it surprises me, that’s all.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#65
Big problem for me is that they are using proceeds from well-selling products like ReSharper to fund their strategic but under-performing products like Rider, all while neglecting the former.

Over last few years there were no big features added in ReSharper whatsoever and it became slower.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow What we are seeing is the predictable result of the classic monetary models, and a rejection of Modern Monetary Theory which linked limits of government spending to the availability of real resources, like workers. Which is why you see people like The Treasury Sec saying the Economy is good because of employme…

I guess? But if there are 5 times more dollars to buy why do they become more expensive (for me, outside the US)? That doesn’t seem intuitively correct to me.

Because the US Dollar, today, is the World Trade Currency, what he US does with monetary policy effect the world

Which is why you see China, Russia and other nation using the current opportunity to attempt to parallel economy to the one based on US Dollar

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#67
post #43

Nicely communicated. Everything that JetBrains does around their pricing and subscription model always feels really fair and classy to me. (perpetual fallback licensing, continuity discounts). In this case, being completely upfront in the post title that this is a price increase, no "Updated pricing" or "Revised pricing" etc. Reasonable notice period with an option to renew for multiple years at the current pricing b…

To be fair, if a huge number of people renew at the current rate for 3 years that’s a nice war-chest for Jetbrains in the coming years.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow What we are seeing is the predictable result of the classic monetary models, and a rejection of Modern Monetary Theory which linked limits of government spending to the availability of real resources, like workers. Which is why you see people like The Treasury Sec saying the Economy is good because of employme…

Prices are not rising because people have too much money and are over purchasing food and energy just to show off to their neighbours. If that were the case then there are things that would work. Increase taxes on income, unearned income, wealth and excess profits to take money out of the economy (MMT theory would support this if the issue was genuinely too much money) Introduce price controls and rationing on food a…

>>Prices are not rising because people have too much money and are over purchasing food and energy just to show off to their neighbours.

I dont believe I said that in any statement, that is red herring and strawman in one. Good job...

Most of the expansion of the monetary supply has been doled out in the form to debt not cash. However buying goods (Cars Home, etc) with massive amounts of debt still causes inflation

Of course Supply chain issues account for some inflation as well, but not all of it.

>> Introduce price controls and rationing on food and basic services

In the entire history of the world, that has never worked, nor will it ever work

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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I’m a big user of both Vim and Emacs and agree that they offer huge productivity boosts as editors. The speed that modal editing (Vim) gives you or the extensibility of Emacs is unparalleled. But at the same time I believe it’s naive to underestimate the productivity offered by IDEs such as IntelliJ or Pycharm. While news tools such as LSP are wonderful additions to Vil/Emacs, the experience doesn’t come close to wha…

Having once been a heavy user of emacs and then switched to IDEA, I'm not sure emacs actually is more extensible. The IDEA API is enormous and very powerful. Plugins don't seem particularly limited in what they can do.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#70

Big problem for me is that they are using proceeds from well-selling products like ReSharper to fund their strategic but under-performing products like Rider, all while neglecting the former. Over last few years there were no big features added in ReSharper whatsoever and it became slower.

Rider is not bad... better for me than VS and VS Code from what I've tried. Basically the equivalent of IDEA.
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